Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted October 9, 2017 As we know, the anti-gun forces keep their talking points ready to go so they can trot them out as the opportunity arises. So why do they always go immediately to "Universal Background Checks"? Do they really believe that bad guys are getting their weapons through "The Gun Show Loophole"? Or do they fully realize that UBC's would lead to a National Registry (as advocated by Mike Kelly in yesterday's Bergen Record), which would be the first step toward the ultimate goal of complete confiscation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted October 9, 2017 It's always "Universal background checks". But its also "high capacity magazine clips" and "military style assault weapons" and "stockpiling ammunition". Get used to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,296 Posted October 9, 2017 I thought it meant 'across the universe', to make sure the buyer isn't a prohibited person on whatever planet Schumer and Pelosi are from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted October 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, Old Glock guy said: As we know, the anti-gun forces keep their talking points ready to go so they can trot them out as the opportunity arises. So why do they always go immediately to "Universal Background Checks"? Do they really believe that bad guys are getting their weapons through "The Gun Show Loophole"? Or do they fully realize that UBC's would lead to a National Registry (as advocated by Mike Kelly in yesterday's Bergen Record), which would be the first step toward the ultimate goal of complete confiscation? Yes, of COURSE its what they want is MANDATORY registration of ALL firearms. They have said as much. In the UK for instance if you get caught with an unlicenced firearm, especially a banned one, you go to jail. That is what the Democrats and left WANT it is their GOAL, to confiscate and then KILL. Make no mistake about it. Your Liberal gun hating relatives/co workers/neighbours will be happy to turn you in. The Democrat party wants to be the boot stamping on your face---forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted October 9, 2017 I never understood the universal background check thing either. Why not just say they want to require a NICS check for all sales. Still don't like it but it doesn't sound as intrusive. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted October 9, 2017 Once everything requires a check of some form it will be easier to advance the screws by changing the criteria of the check. No laws, no bills, a simple admit order changing what they look for to prohibit. Not only is it a slippery slope, but with UBC it's a slope through a tunnel. They saw the No Fly List and said "hold my beer" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted October 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, capt14k said: I never understood the universal background check thing either. Why not just say they want to require a NICS check for all sales. Still don't like it but it doesn't sound as intrusive. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Bad, Bad, Bad !!! Like Oregon. Can't lend your buddy, son, daughter a shotgun to go hunting with. Require a NICS to give them the gun and a NICS to get it back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted October 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ray Ray said: It's always "Universal background checks". But its also "high capacity magazine clips" and "military style assault weapons" and "stockpiling ammunition". Get used to it. Yes, I understand why they hate those other evil sounding things, but the background checks are always the first thing they go to, because it sounds so reasonable. Yet they are so insistent about it, often citing that statistic of unknown origin that 90% of people are in favor of it, that one has to think there is more to it. If they really think it's important, how about this: The government does a NICS check for sales at no cost to the gun owner, and after the check, there is no record of the transaction. And of course, one can lend guns to friends, family, etc., for hunting, shooting, whatever, as long as they are in the presence of the owner, same as we do now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,681 Posted October 9, 2017 I believe every time a politician violates the Constitution they should receive electro shok therapy.... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted October 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, Old Glock guy said: Yes, I understand why they hate those other evil sounding things, but the background checks are always the first thing they go to, because it sounds so reasonable. Yet they are so insistent about it, often citing that statistic of unknown origin that 90% of people are in favor of it, that one has to think there is more to it. If they really think it's important, how about this: The government does a NICS check for sales at no cost to the gun owner, and after the check, there is no record of the transaction. And of course, one can lend guns to friends, family, etc., for hunting, shooting, whatever, as long as they are in the presence of the owner, same as we do now? Ain't gonna work. That's not what they're looking for. Again, look at Oregon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted October 10, 2017 Bad, Bad, Bad !!! Like Oregon. Can't lend your buddy, son, daughter a shotgun to go hunting with. Require a NICS to give them the gun and a NICS to get it back. I said I don't agree. I'm on the side of no restrictions. Lock up criminals and the insane. Also only meant for sales.Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted October 28, 2017 “They” know nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mossburger 406 Posted October 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, CMJeepster said: “They” know nothing. This is honestly the closest thing to it. A lot of these politicians talking about the "gun show loophole" are fossils that have been in office since the 80s when gun shows were a big deal. It's literally just a bunch of old people spouting nonsense that haven't heard of "the internet" on which there are tons of local and regional online forums and you don't have to wait for the gun show to come around. Maybe it's a good thing 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred2 367 Posted October 28, 2017 How about every person in the USA get a background check. If they fail, they have to leave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites