pho3nix 5 Posted November 8, 2017 Did this change to existing legislation pass? Need a relatively quick answer so posting in General! I think it may have but want to know for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted November 8, 2017 Your incomplete question requires a Yes & No answer: Semi-auto over 15 rounds is an "Assault Weapon" RIGHT NOW! ANY semi-auto, including a Marlin Glenfield Model #60! Lever & pump action .22 plinkers are NOT banned therefore they aren't subject to the restriction(s). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pho3nix 5 Posted November 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Smokin .50 said: Your incomplete question requires a Yes & No answer: Semi-auto over 15 rounds is an "Assault Weapon" RIGHT NOW! ANY semi-auto, including a Marlin Glenfield Model #60! Lever & pump action .22 plinkers are NOT banned therefore they aren't subject to the restriction(s). You are correct. I thought Christie signed something exempting tube fed semi autos. Rats. I thought along with the slightly relaxed language around stopping while traveling. This would be for a semi-auto, yes pump and manual action do not have limits. Anyone else want to chime in or am I mistaken? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted November 8, 2017 You can "pinch" the tube mag so it only holds & functions with 15 rounds. Some makers were offering a kit to do so. Private smiths can also do the work. I know of no such exemption for the semi-auto plinkers. If someone has better info, please correct me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted November 8, 2017 Dave's on point, period. For now, all bets off after 01/16/2018. NJ tube can be made by using a copper pipe cutter and replacing the cutter with a washer and finding the sweet spot, read legal, on the tube and making an indent deep enough to stop more than 15 rounds from loading, but not too deep to restrict action of the spring or follower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted November 8, 2017 Not going to repeat what Tbill and Smokin 50 said. That's the law as I know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pho3nix 5 Posted November 9, 2017 The problem is it is marked 22s, l, and lr. So I would have to find 15 22shorts to crimp to, is that correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted November 9, 2017 I would believe so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted November 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, BenC said: The problem is it is marked 22s, l, and lr. So I would have to find 15 22shorts to crimp to, is that correct? I have never seen a .22 semi auto work with .22 shorts. Sure, you could chamber each round manually. I thought the magazine had to reliably feed the weapon. My best guess would be to restrict it from holding more than 15 rounds of .22lr and just forget about how many shorts fit since the rifle would most likely not function with shorts in the fist place. I could be wrong but I don't think I am. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pho3nix 5 Posted November 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: I have never seen a .22 semi auto work with .22 shorts. Sure, you could chamber each round manually. I thought the magazine had to reliably feed the weapon. My best guess would be to restrict it from holding more than 15 rounds of .22lr and just forget about how many shorts fit since the rifle would most likely not function with shorts in the fist place. I could be wrong but I don't think I am. It's a nice thought... It can hold more than 15rds of ammunition, but if you have to manually cycle the action, I suppose it would not count as fed continuously... but it is a semi-automatic firearm. Sucks, it's a Rossi 62 SA that was my grandfathers.... not worth anything but sentimental value. It is located out of state and bequeathed, but parent would not be comfortable making modifications and shipping I bet. "Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, t ube or other container which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously a nd directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted November 9, 2017 If you need to modify one, do it yourself. FFL's have to log "assault weapons" that come into their shops for work and those books are reviewed by NJSP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, BenC said: It's a nice thought... It can hold more than 15rds of ammunition, but if you have to manually cycle the action, I suppose it would not count as fed continuously... but it is a semi-automatic firearm. Sucks, it's a Rossi 62 SA that was my grandfathers.... not worth anything but sentimental value. It is located out of state and bequeathed, but parent would not be comfortable making modifications and shipping I bet. "Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, t ube or other container which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously a nd directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm You are correct. You can shoot shorts in a LR but it wouldn't continuously feed the action. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Screwball 483 Posted November 9, 2017 This is the one point where legislation will be an issue with me... I have a Marlin 60, which my father bought me for Christmas back when I was 8. It is legal, and one of those guns I will not get rid of. I also will not be crimping the tube or anything else. As said, this was a present from my father, so it will be passed to my children when they get to the age that they start shooting. If legislation passes while I’m still here, I’ll box all magazines and guns included, and lock them up in a cheap safe at my godmother’s house in PA. Very easy thing to do... and when I make my final move, I’ll grab them as I leave. If legislation passes while I’m at FLETC or before I get settled to move everything down, technically I have contraband in my home. I’m not going to be able to come back to NJ for a few months, so that kind of makes it hard for me to follow laws that I completely oppose. My solution will be lock everything questionable up in the one safe I only have access to, take both keys with me, and when I come back, make the move as quickly/easily as possible. I just don’t like the fact that one day, my property is legal, and the next, I’m a “criminal” due to some a**hole’s agenda. I’d have to see how it goes, but at least I’d be exiting the state as Federal L/E. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites