revenger 473 Posted January 17, 2018 In the event the 5th column ( democrats ) shut down the federal govt this friday what happens to NICS? Is our esteemed NRA affiliate preparing a civil rights lawsuit to present IMMEDIATELY after shutdown to the SC? Any ideas, has this ever happened before? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 17, 2018 CLOSED. Non-essential Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 17, 2018 sooo....when one goes to purchase a firearm....what is it....3 days no response, then the sale goes through? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted January 17, 2018 sooo....when one goes to purchase a firearm....what is it....3 days no response, then the sale goes through?I think that's how it goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 17, 2018 hell.....buy buy buy when they shut down, lolol then just wait.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted January 17, 2018 excluding the shithole state of NJ how can a constitutional right be non-essential? lawsuit should be filed immediately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 17, 2018 "NO" on 3 days in NJ. A NTN must be issued first. AFAIK, that doesn't happen in NJ. You're still f>&ked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, PK90 said: "NO" on 3 days in NJ. A NTN must be issued first. AFAIK, that doesn't happen in NJ. You're still f>&ked. gotcha. i thought i'd seen the 3 day thing in the statutes....but could be wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted January 18, 2018 I believe NICS would be essential. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted January 18, 2018 14 hours ago, 1LtCAP said: gotcha. i thought i'd seen the 3 day thing in the statutes....but could be wrong No FFL in their right mind would ever let a gun go after a 3 day no response. After the Sandy Hook shooting response time took weeks.. Guns waiting on NICS approvals were piled from the floor to the ceiling during that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 18, 2018 No FFL in their right mind would ever let a gun go after a 3 day no response. After the Sandy Hook shooting response time took weeks.. Guns waiting on NICS approvals were piled from the floor to the ceiling during that one.I guess I am out of my mind. Once the dealer gets an NTN, the clock starts ticking. ETA: I do that now. Half of the DELAYSs go to an OPEN status, then go away after 30 days. No approval is ever given. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuclearheli 40 Posted January 18, 2018 I think your wrong on the shutdown. First of all the NJSP Firearms unit wont be affected by a federal shutdown. Not like the state shutdown. Also the Federal NICS system is integrated into the national system for law enforcement and should remain on-line regardless. In fact if i remember correctly most all elements of the federal law enforcement system are considered essential. Besides how many times has the threat of a shutdown been used by congress as blackmail in the past. As optomistic as it sounds I doubt they will shut down, in my simple and humble opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, nuclearheli said: I think your wrong on the shutdown. First of all the NJSP Firearms unit wont be affected by a federal shutdown. Not like the state shutdown. Also the Federal NICS system is integrated into the national system for law enforcement and should remain on-line regardless. In fact if i remember correctly most all elements of the federal law enforcement system are considered essential. Besides how many times has the threat of a shutdown been used by congress as blackmail in the past. As optomistic as it sounds I doubt they will shut down, in my simple and humble opinion. state pd sends info to nics. they can't if nics is shut down 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuclearheli 40 Posted January 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: state pd sends info to nics. they can't if nics is shut down Precisely and the NICS database is a stripped down version of the NCIC (National Crime Information Center). The NCIC is considered essential and now also used by Homeland Security. I doubt they would shut down the entire nations NCIC system. I recall several years ago when another Federal shutdown was threatened, one of many, the paper's listed essential services that would still be available. The FBI and other federal law enforcement agencies were "essential". Non essential stuff includes national parks and stuff like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuclearheli 40 Posted January 18, 2018 I knew I recalled something about this years ago. Here is the answer to your question. https://pjmedia.com/blog/if-the-government-shuts-down-what-happens-to-the-fbis-gun-purchase-background-check-system/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted January 18, 2018 "NO" on 3 days in NJ. A NTN must be issued first. AFAIK, that doesn't happen in NJ. You're still f>&ked.Thanks for clarifying Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted January 18, 2018 5 hours ago, PK90 said: I guess I am out of my mind. Once the dealer gets an NTN, the clock starts ticking. ETA: I do that now. Half of the DELAYSs go to an OPEN status, then go away after 30 days. No approval is ever given. I was referring to an FFL in NJ. You don't count...you escaped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 18, 2018 7 hours ago, 9X19 said: I believe NICS would be essential. Damn right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
