djw2033 28 Posted February 16, 2018 Has anyone started/finish a project of opening a range ? say I had the right investors and background that never includes a traffic ticket. is it feesabke to think I could satisfy all the hoops to jump trough ? Would 100k be enough of starting money to get everything in place ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, djw2033 said: Has anyone started/finish a project of opening a range ? say I had the right investors and background that never includes a traffic ticket. is it feesabke to think I could satisfy all the hoops to jump trough ? Would 100k be enough of starting money to get everything in place ? Talk to the people at Legacy. Pretty sure @Smokin .50 is friends with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, djw2033 said: 1. Has anyone started/finish a project of opening a range ? 2. say I had the right investors and background that never includes a traffic ticket. 3. is it feesabke to think I could satisfy all the hoops to jump trough ? 4. Would 100k be enough of starting money to get everything in place ? 1. Public? No. 2. Go for it. 3. In the right area, far far away. 4. LOL 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 16, 2018 Zoning would be your biggest issue. That and I don’t think 100grand would be enough for even the bathrooms. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 16, 2018 a public outdoor range would be nice. There's the land in Hunterdon County for one and even parts of Somerset County. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted February 16, 2018 I think $100K would be just the legal fees needed to get land use approval. An indoor range will cost about $4M to build and that is bare bones. An outdoor range could be just as expensive depending on how much cut/fill you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted February 16, 2018 100k probably would cover the ventilation system.........maybe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 16, 2018 I’m on the Planning Board in my town. You couldn’t begin to make this presentation to us without a lawyer. You could try but unfortunately the way the system is set up it’s the case. You also need expert testimony ( epa, noise, parking, etc.). Unfortunately NJ has it arranged so just to put a porch on your house could be a 10G move before you start. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 823 Posted February 16, 2018 Well, as said, 100k ain't getting you anywhere. But, if you can secure the financing to open one, you will do good. The gun range market (indoor or outdoor) in NJ is far from being saturated. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, BobA said: I’m on the Planning Board in my town. You couldn’t begin to make this presentation to us without a lawyer. You could try but unfortunately the way the system is set up it’s the case. You also need expert testimony ( epa, noise, parking, etc.). Unfortunately NJ has it arranged so just to put a porch on your house could be a 10G move before you start. He’s right better chance of putting in a ohva Park. But the libs hate that also Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 16, 2018 If you really have 100G the it might be best to buy property and have a private club that everyone pays dues into. You might have a better chance of getting permission to shoot and it can be sustained by dues. Hunterdon County should be your target. Kingwood section would support this. Oh, and make it a nonprofit. Let me know when and I’ll join. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reloaderguy 30 Posted February 17, 2018 3 hours ago, fishnut said: 100k probably would cover the ventilation system.........maybe Try $250K. That's what it's costing our range to upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 509 Posted February 17, 2018 Think about what a house costs. What does $100K get you. Now build the house with materials that will hold up to commercial foot traffic, add a parking lot, specialty equipment for the ranges, make it big enough to use, filtered ventilation, storm water management, and lots and lots of other stuff. I would think you would be starting in the $3 - $5 Million ballpark. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted February 17, 2018 100k probably would cover the ventilation system.........maybe Not even close Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted February 17, 2018 Couple of cinderblocks, pile of sand, plywood, several large box fans. All set! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted February 17, 2018 17 hours ago, BobA said: Zoning would be your biggest issue. That and I don’t think 100grand would be enough for even the bathrooms. and even with zoning being ok......we all know some nuttard will get all the neighbors to sign up against it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted February 17, 2018 IMO....indoor.....lousy investment with a poor return. Outdoors on a nice piece of property would be good, if you had the right landscape and location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, xXxplosive said: IMO....indoor.....lousy investment with a poor return. Outdoors on a nice piece of property would be good, if you had the right landscape and location. Like I said, the kingwood section of Stockton is very gun friendly. 100G would buy a lot of acres there. Private club with limited membership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted February 17, 2018 Hmmm.....IMO 100K wouldn't buy a lot of acres anywhere in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, xXxplosive said: Hmmm.....IMO 100K wouldn't buy a lot of acres anywhere in NJ. https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Warren-County-NJ/fsba,fsbo_lt/land_type/2092274797_zpid/1478_rid/75000-100000_price/295-393_mp/435600-_lot/pricea_sort/41.289158,-74.248353,40.394672,-75.72464_rect/9_zm/0_mmm/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted February 17, 2018 A gun range on School Road.... good luck with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 17, 2018 yeah but that's Wantage and Sussex County. Doesn't really get more pro-gun than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 17, 2018 Of course. It was an example of property that can be had for the money. I've been on Zillow a lot lately looking to move. There can be acreage still bought afford-ably in NJ. And there are gun friendly areas with enough property. 1 minute ago, JR88USMC said: yeah but that's Wantage and Sussex County. Doesn't really get more pro-gun than that. Actually parts of Hunterton are ok with it too. Out Frenchtown way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 17, 2018 Of course. It was an example of property that can be had for the money. I've been on Zillow a lot lately looking to move. There can be acreage still bought afford-ably in NJ. And there are gun friendly areas with enough property. Actually parts of Hunterton are ok with it too. Out Frenchtown way.Somerset too if you go up in to Bedminster & Peapack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, JR88USMC said: Somerset too if you go up in to Bedminster & Peapack. Now that would surprise me. Somerset doesn't exactly seem gun friendly. I work on 43 acres of wooded land and can't even fire a shot gun in somerset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 17, 2018 Northern Somerset County is extremely Pro-Gun. Bedminster, Basking Ridge, Bernardsville, Peapack-Gladstone, Warren. These are all very pro-gun towns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 17, 2018 But you're not getting the acreage for 100g's. https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Alexandria-Township-NJ/fsba,fsbo_lt/pmf,pf_pt/land_type/2097579264_zpid/398867_rid/100000-125000_price/393-491_mp/435600-_lot/globalrelevanceex_sort/40.643786,-74.9362,40.531545,-75.120736_rect/12_zm/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 18, 2018 no definitely not. But i bet if some rich guy with a lot of land in one of the mentioned towns wanted to open a range on his property, he probably could. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, JR88USMC said: Northern Somerset County is extremely Pro-Gun. Bedminster, Basking Ridge, Bernardsville, Peapack-Gladstone, Warren. These are all very pro-gun towns. Basking Ridge, Peapack-Gladstone, Bernardsville.....maybe back in the day...where do you fact check this . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 18, 2018 The Chief of Police in Bedminster, who's told me how many FID holders there are in all these towns... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites