No excuse to not be in Trenton tomorrow. And yours truly will be the MC!

[cmarcell 6]

I'm not going to try to figure out something I have no intention of complying with.

Not saying you have to. We are all just trying to figure this out.

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[Zeke 5,504]

9 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said:

I'm sorry I missed you. I grabbed one of the red NRA signs. I propped it on the steps where I was seated... frozen in place like a human popsicle, lol. Oh, damn, it was C-O-L-D. (Thanks btw to @Smokin .50 who passed me a pair of those chemical hand warmers - that helped).   

So, let's talk turkey.

• As others have mentioned, can we try this again in warm weather? On a Saturday? With 4 mos  notice... and lots of advance communications/press coordination? I'd like to see 10,000 in attendance... and I'm quite confident it could be done. Hell, I'd even volunteer my time to help with that. I'm sure many of us would. 
• There's categories of speakers or at least participants I'd like to see more of: 1) more young faces (scouts, jr rifle league members), 2) a national/Olympic shooting champion or 2, 3) speakers with their own horror story of government overreach (Shaneen Allen, etc.), 4) some people with DGU stories, 4) an NRA headliner speaker - Dana Loesch? Colin Noir?.etc. 
• Can we brainstorm any signs/t-shirts well in advance, pre-print them, deliver them in advance? Maybe even have lawn stakes that people can pick up afterwards to get a second life from the same sign by displaying it in their yard?
• I could go on... and on... an on. I'm TOTALLY glad to see what happened today... to see the people who showed up... and stood up for individual freedoms. Because that's really what it's all about. That said, I walked away convinced that we have to think MUCH, MUCH bigger. 
• If nothing else, while the 2A org's hopefully let the injunctions and lawsuits fly, each of us can do 2 things: 1) recruit more people into the shooting sports (just "bring a guest" - how hard it that?), and 2) help make sure the abuse and over reach we're seeing from Murphy's administration is burned into the consciousness of every voter we meet. We have 3+ years to get that done. IMO, the time to plan the summer rally is RIGHT NOW. That's how I see it.

Did you share with @Gunsrlegal she was a popsicle!

[Zeke 5,504]

3 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

I'm not going to try to figure out something That isn’t codified law yet..

 

Shhhh... ftfy 

[DirtyDigz 1,811]

1 minute ago, Zeke said:

Shhhh... ftfy 

Hope you're right Zeke.  I listened to the debate in the assembly today and the D's are completely deaf to any pro-gun argument.

One of the D. legislators had a kid next to him who led the walkout in her school as a prop for support of his bill.

[Zeke 5,504]

Just now, DirtyDigz said:

Hope you're right Zeke.  I listened to the debate in the assembly today and the D's are completely deaf to any pro-gun argument.

Well, that’s why we have courts. Executive, legislative, judicial.. cks and balances. 

[JohnnyB 4,322]

3 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

Hope you're right Zeke.  I listened to the debate in the assembly today and the D's are completely deaf to any pro-gun argument.

We knew that going in from past history with this stupid state!

[Persona non grata 113]

Good rally, but I wish we could have gotten more! With 1 million gun owners, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't get at least a few thousand people. Of course, I was able to get a spot in the Lafayette garage, so maybe I shouldn't complain?  Oh, and I agree that it was cold! I wore wool socks, thermals, a waffle henley, fleece, jacket, gloves and a winter hat, and I was still cold until I was able to get into the sun!  Maybe I should move to another state for the warmer weather instead of just the guns? 

[DirtyDigz 1,811]

Just now, Zeke said:

Well, that’s why we have courts. Executive, legislative, judicial.. cks and balances. 

And that takes years.  Laws get passed in months, take years to reverse.

Look how long it took for the stun gun un-ban to take effect, and NJ *conceded* on that one.

[JohnnyB 4,322]

1 minute ago, DirtyDigz said:

And that takes years.  Laws get passed in months, take years to reverse.

Look how long it took for the stun gun un-ban to take effect, and NJ *conceded* on that one.

For all the good that one wound up doing for us!

[Zeke 5,504]

2 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

And that takes years.  Laws get passed in months, take years to reverse.

Look how long it took for the stun gun un-ban to take effect, and NJ *conceded* on that one.

Injunction? Stop adding to the fray. You are better!

[voyager9 3,434]

3 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

And that takes years.  Laws get passed in months, take years to reverse.

Look how long it took for the stun gun un-ban to take effect, and NJ *conceded* on that one.

That’s what injunctions are for. 

Just now, Zeke said:

Injunction? Stop adding to the fray. You are better!

Jinx

[Zeke 5,504]

1 minute ago, JohnnyB said:

For all the good that one wound up doing for us!

That’s solid law. Good luck NJ sanctuary legislators 

[JohnnyB 4,322]

BTW, thanks to @gunforhire, Mr Colandro did an outstanding job as MC! Thanks Ant!

Thanks also to @Smokin .50, you were great too Rosey! Thanks!

[BobA 1,235]

14 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Did you share with @Gunsrlegal she was a popsicle!

That would be Peelsicle.

[gunforhire 826]

2 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

BTW, thanks to @gunforhire, Mr Colandro did an outstanding job as MC! Thanks Ant!

Thanks also to @Smokin .50, you were great too Rosey! Thanks!

Anthony to you!  LOL. Everyone in attendance kicked ass!

[Bob2222 316]

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     ¹7.  (New section) a.  A person who legally owns a firearm with a fixed magazine capacity holding up to 15 rounds which is incapable of being modified to accommodate 10 or less rounds and was purchased on or prior to the effective date of P.L.      , c.    (C.        ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill) shall register that firearm within one year from the effective date this act. In order to register the firearm, the owner shall: 

     (1) complete a registration statement, in the form to be prescribed by the Superintendent of the State Police; 

     (2)  pay a registration fee of $50 per firearm; and

     (3) produce for inspection a valid firearms purchaser identification card, permit to carry a handgun, or permit to purchase a handgun. 

     b.    The information provided in the registration statement established pursuant to subsection a. of this section shall include, but shall not be limited to:  the name and address of the registrant; the number or numbers on the registrant's firearms purchaser identification card, permit to carry a handgun, or permit to purchase a handgun; and the make, model, and serial number of the firearm being registered.  Each registration statement shall be signed by the registrant, and the signature shall constitute a representation of the accuracy of the information contained in the registration statement. 

     c.     An applicant shall register the firearm in the law enforcement agency of the municipality in which the applicant resides or, if the municipality does not have a municipal law enforcement agency, any State Police station.

     d.    Within 60 days of the effective date of P.L.     , c.    (C.      ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill), the superintendent shall prepare the form of registration statement as described in subsection b. of this section and shall provide a suitable supply of statements to each organized full-time municipal police department and each State Police station. 

     e.     One copy of the completed registration statement shall be returned to the registrant, a second copy shall be sent to the Superintendent, and, if the registration takes place at a municipal police department, a third copy shall be retained by that municipal police department. 

     f.     The heir or estate of an owner of a firearm which has been registered pursuant to this section shall within 90 days after the owner’s death dispose of that firearm in accordance with section 5 of P.L.        , c.     (C.        ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill)¹ 

 

     ¹[6.] 8.¹     This act shall take effect immediately.

So you need not give up the 1860 Henry Rifle that your great, great, great grandfather carried at Gettysburg -- but you do need to pay $50 and register it?

 

[DirtyDigz 1,811]

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produce for inspection a valid firearms purchaser identification card, permit to carry a handgun, or permit to purchase a handgun. 

So if you have one of the so designated firearms, a FID or permit to purchase becomes a *requirement* to legally own it.

[PK90 3,570]

So you need not give up the 1860 Henry Rifle that your great, great, great grandfather carried at Gettysburg -- but you do need to pay $50 and register it?

But the passing down stops at you, unless your kids leave NJ.

[JohnnyB 4,322]

2 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said:

So if you have one of the so designated firearms, a FID or permit to purchase becomes a *requirement* to legally own it.

SO...........We have 180 days to comply and must have a FID card will make Felons out of all those when their PD take longer than 180 days to issue the permit!

 

[Ray Ray 3,566]

3 hours ago, bhunted said:

Btw Ray, how many times have you said we eat our own? The saying, practice what you preach comes to mind. You holding back is no different that just blurting the whole thing out.

 

Apples and oranges

When fair weather 2A fuckers try to undermine US, I will call them out.  Just like WE did to the CEO of Daniel Defense, Dick's Sporting Goods, and Springfield Armory.  

[JimB1 554]

3 hours ago, Shawnmoore81 said:

Nobody bringing up they sent the Newark high school drum team to practice next to the rally. Bused and Escorted by teachers


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I was wondering about that too...

[JohnnyB 4,322]

4 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

Apples and oranges

When fair weather 2A fuckers try to undermine US, I will call them out.  Just like WE did to the CEO of Daniel Defense, Dick's Sporting Goods, and Springfield Armory.  

Mipa?

[Gunsrlegal 140]

40 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Did you share with @Gunsrlegal she was a popsicle!

By that time I had moved to a sunny spot to try to defrost. The sun didn't help too much.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Just now, JohnnyB said:

Mipa?

Huh

[Malice4you 627]

I was told it has been on News 12 NJ, so it should be in their rotation once an hour.  No idea if or how it is skewed.

Edit:

Will be on at 10PM apparently.  They've shown a few brief clips so far that I've seen.

[JohnnyB 4,322]

Just now, Ray Ray said:

Huh

Your post just reminded me of Mipafox. He loved calling out anyone who tried to undermine our fight! It was a pleasure to finally meet you today by the way.

[JimB1 554]

22 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

SO...........We have 180 days to comply and must have a FID card will make Felons out of all those when their PD take longer than 180 days to issue the permit!

 

You are assuming they even have a registration process within 180 days of the bill being signed. Remember the process and documentation don’t even exist yet. I would hate to be the test case for the first person that has one of these registered for more then 10 round guns that gets pulled over. You are going to jail while they sort it out

The State Police have a hard time figuring out what the legal way to transport is, you think they are going to have a clue about case by case over 10 round firearms? It’s going to be a cluster fk.

-Jim

[Ray Ray 3,566]

7 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

Your post just reminded me of Mipafox. He loved calling out anyone who tried to undermine our fight! It was a pleasure to finally meet you today by the way.

This is what I mean

Nice to meet you too, pops.

[JohnnyB 4,322]

6 minutes ago, Ray Ray said:

This is what I mean

Nice to meet you too, pops.

Ouch, that hurt!

[Gunsrlegal 140]

54 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said:

I'm sorry I missed you. I grabbed one of the red NRA signs. I propped it on the steps where I was seated... frozen in place like a human popsicle, lol. Oh, damn, it was C-O-L-D. (Thanks btw to @Smokin .50 who passed me a pair of those chemical hand warmers - that helped).   

So, let's talk turkey.

• As others have mentioned, can we try this again in warm weather? On a Saturday? With 4 mos  notice... and lots of advance communications/press coordination? I'd like to see 10,000 in attendance... and I'm quite confident it could be done. Hell, I'd even volunteer my time to help with that. I'm sure many of us would. 
• There's categories of speakers or at least participants I'd like to see more of: 1) more young faces (scouts, jr rifle league members), 2) a national/Olympic shooting champion or 2, 3) speakers with their own horror story of government overreach (Shaneen Allen, etc.), 4) some people with DGU stories, 4) an NRA headliner speaker - Dana Loesch? Colin Noir?.etc. 
• Can we brainstorm any signs/t-shirts well in advance, pre-print them, deliver them in advance? Maybe even have lawn stakes that people can pick up afterwards to get a second life from the same sign by displaying it in their yard?
• I could go on... and on... an on. I'm TOTALLY glad to see what happened today... to see the people who showed up... and stood up for individual freedoms. Because that's really what it's all about. That said, I walked away convinced that we have to think MUCH, MUCH bigger. 
• If nothing else, while the 2A org's hopefully let the injunctions and lawsuits fly, each of us can do 2 things: 1) recruit more people into the shooting sports (just "bring a guest" - how hard it that?), and 2) help make sure the abuse and over reach we're seeing from Murphy's administration is burned into the consciousness of every voter we meet. We have 3+ years to get that done. IMO, the time to plan the summer rally is RIGHT NOW. That's how I see it.

@Mrs. Peel and I discussed these points as we drove home from the rally. I understand that we don't have the type of $$$$-backing the "kids" are getting from people like Soros and Bloomberg, but we need to find ways to increase our numbers in front of the cameras. Rally on a weekend. Lead-time, coordination, and communication are key. Everyone in matching shirts so we look like a cohesive "team." Going on the theory that the country's gun laws may only be as strong as its weakest link (NJ?), maybe try to get some gun manufacturer(s) to donate some $$ to the NJ cause. I don't think another rally has to be tied to a specific legislative vote, we need to show numbers. We might make a better point by rallying a couple of months prior to an election/primary cycle. I admit that I don't have any answers, but I know that people who know a helluva lot more about this than I do busted their butts to organize today's rally and they did a great job. I'd be willing to help in any way I can with any future planning.