4 New Proposed Laws, the Crazy doesn't Sleep in Trenton

[Sniper 6,372]

Saw these on Reddit, anyone hear about these 4 new proposed laws?

A3697 would make the state's 'assault' weapon ban even more restrictive.

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3697_I1.HTM

A3708 would give first priority for firearm purchase cards and carry permits to those that are under the protection of a restraining order

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3708_I1.HTM

A3730 would define 'reasonably necessary deviations' for transporting a firearm in a motor vehicle

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3730_I1.HTM

S2323 would require anyone wishing to use a firearm at a range to have a firearm purchase indemnification card

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/S2500/2323_I1.HTM

 

Looks like the Dems are throwing EVERYTHING at the wall, trying to get something to stick!

 

[67gtonut 847]

Range owners are gonna have a fit with S2323

 

[Indianajonze 379]

 

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

A3697 is the most recent version of the "Assault Weapon Redefinition" bill. It will for all intents and purposes ban every semi-auto rifle made because every one is designed to be held by your non-trigger hand, an act that makes it a newly minted AW regardless of any other evil feature.

This one bill being enacted into law will be the end of the State of New Jersey. Blood WILL run in the streets.

[gfl216 226]

What would be considered a "Military Style Feature on a semi automatic pistol" ?

[diamondd817 826]

3708/3730 will never pass. Because they may actually benefit the law abiding citizen/gun owner.

[BobA 1,235]

Definition "f" of A3697 can be raad to include nail guns and Hilti power guns.

 

Also para #2 line vii, will this make our 1911s assault weapons due to their weight? 

[Shawnmoore81 623]

There is an area of pennsville Nj that’s actually Delaware....... maybe a settlement camp


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[njJoniGuy 2,131]

2 minutes ago, Shawnmoore81 said:

There is an area of pennsville Nj that’s actually Delaware....... maybe a settlement camp


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Or a secure Storage rental place??

[matty 810]

The STEAMROLLER OF REVENGE rolls on!

[matty 810]

6 hours ago, Sniper22 said:

Saw these on Reddit, anyone hear about these 4 new proposed laws?

A3697 would make the state's 'assault' weapon ban even more restrictive.

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3697_I1.HTM

A3708 would give first priority for firearm purchase cards and carry permits to those that are under the protection of a restraining order

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3708_I1.HTM

A3730 would define 'reasonably necessary deviations' for transporting a firearm in a motor vehicle

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3730_I1.HTM

S2323 would require anyone wishing to use a firearm at a range to have a firearm purchase indemnification card

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/S2500/2323_I1.HTM

 

Looks like the Dems are throwing EVERYTHING at the wall, trying to get something to stick!

 

Remember, they PERSONALLY HATE YOU and WANT YOU DEAD because you lawfully own guns in NJ

14 minutes ago, Shawnmoore81 said:

There is an area of pennsville Nj that’s actually Delaware....... maybe a settlement camp


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May as well just Move 

[9X19 125]

1 hour ago, BobA said:

Definition "f" of A3697 can be raad to include nail guns and Hilti power guns.

 

Also para #2 line vii, will this make our 1911s assault weapons due to their weight? 

I thought that was already the weight  for a semi pistol unloaded.

Different thing if they include all handguns. A single action BFR revolver would be an assault weapon.

[9X19 125]

(viii) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm.

So any semi gun that was ever manufactured as a full auto....that's the Glock 17.

[vjf915 456]

1 hour ago, BobA said:

 

Also para #2 line vii, will this make our 1911s assault weapons due to their weight? 

Did you bother looking up what 1911's weigh?  Your average full size 1911 will weigh ~40oz depending on materials.

Also, that weight restriction was there before. So...

[BobA 1,235]

Just now, vjf915 said:

Did you bother looking up what 1911's weigh?  Your average full size 1911 will weigh ~40oz depending on materials.

Also, that weight restriction was there before. So...

I plan to.  As soon as I can make noise in the house.

[124gr9mm 859]

7 hours ago, njJoniGuy said:

This one bill being enacted into law will be the end of the State of New Jersey. Blood WILL run in the streets.

I hope not.

I'd like to think that one would just leave the state instead of going on a rampage...

[Zeke 5,504]

Don’t we have the “ in common use” clause on our side?

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Don’t we have the “ in common use” clause on our side?

When we go to court we do. The senate and governor sure dont care


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I hope not.
I'd like to think that one would just leave the state instead of going on a rampage...

I use to think that way
Now the cancer is spreading to other states.


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[Zeke 5,504]

Just now, Shawnmoore81 said:

 

When we go to court we do. The senate and governor sure dont care


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Yeah I know. And we pay 2x for litigation. Should come out of their campaign finance, not our taxes

[CAL. .30 M1 2,101]

34 minutes ago, vjf915 said:

Did you bother looking up what 1911's weigh?  Your average full size 1911 will weigh ~40oz depending on materials.

Also, that weight restriction was there before. So...

2 lbs 6 oz +/- unloaded SA Milspec

 

 

LOL AAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD  How many criminals just weighed their guns.....

 

Stupidity - 

 

They should just say what they want - they want any and all semi firearms - that are military type - for now

 

[BobA 1,235]

9 minutes ago, USRifle30Cal said:

2 lbs 6 oz +/- unloaded SA Milspec

 

 

LOL AAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD  How many criminals just weighed their guns.....

 

Stupidity - 

 

They should just say what they want - they want any and all semi firearms - that are military type - for now

 

33oz. here.  Actually their drug scales are probably more accurate than ours!  They should weigh ours for us as a return favor for making it easier for them to kill us with all these new Bills.  

[siderman 1,137]

24 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Don’t we have the “ in common use” clause on our side?

you would think so. But how do you quantify how common? by taking a count of just how many there actually are.... aka registration?....sounds like a trap to me.

[CAL. .30 M1 2,101]

2 minutes ago, BobA said:

33oz. here.  Actually their drug scales are probably more accurate than ours!  They should weigh ours for us as a return favor for making it easier for them to kill us with all these new Bills.  

I just used my wife's backing scale - - while she is an avid supporter of the 2A - the idea of a 1911 near Her scale made her edgy - yes I wrapped it in plastic....  LOL

 

[siderman 1,137]

8 hours ago, Sniper22 said:

Saw these on Reddit, anyone hear about these 4 new proposed laws?

A3697 would make the state's 'assault' weapon ban even more restrictive.

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3697_I1.HTM

A3708 would give first priority for firearm purchase cards and carry permits to those that are under the protection of a restraining order

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3708_I1.HTM

A3730 would define 'reasonably necessary deviations' for transporting a firearm in a motor vehicle

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A4000/3730_I1.HTM

S2323 would require anyone wishing to use a firearm at a range to have a firearm purchase indemnification card

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/S2500/2323_I1.HTM

 

Looks like the Dems are throwing EVERYTHING at the wall, trying to get something to stick!

 

You're kinda new here so maybe you havent seen this template of crazy from 2013 after the sandy hook school shooting. They couldnt make the shit up fast enough and now are blowing the dust off these.....http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/ds-email/gun_control_list_03-22-13.pdf  warning- there are 70+...

[1LtCAP 4,262]

1 hour ago, 9X19 said:

(viii) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm.

So any semi gun that was ever manufactured as a full auto....that's the Glock 17.

 

36 minutes ago, Shawnmoore81 said:

 

When we go to court we do. The senate and governor sure dont care


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I use to think that way
Now the cancer is spreading to other states.


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no...it's been spreading for decades.

[MartyZ 692]

10 minutes ago, siderman said:

you would think so. But how do you quantify how common? by taking a count of just how many there actually are.... aka registration?....sounds like a trap to me.

All they need to do is look at sales figures throughout the last 10 years or so just to get a small idea of how many 1911s are out there. That number alone, which is a small fraction of the actual amount in circulation, would be more than enough to prove "common use"

[Sota 1,191]

as a member of a range that reports membership annually to the state police (names only) 3730 is irrelevant to me, as the "reasonable deviation" clause was already negated.

[Zeke 5,504]

53 minutes ago, siderman said:

you would think so. But how do you quantify how common? by taking a count of just how many there actually are.... aka registration?....sounds like a trap to me.

Any handgun purchase of a nj residents is on file with NJSP since the permit to purchase law went into effect.

[PK90 3,570]

Any handgun purchase of a nj residents is on file with NJSP since the permit to purchase law went into effect.

Which really doesn't mean anything as half of all the permitted guns have left the State or have been passed down.

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[EX Carnival man 223]

27 minutes ago, PK90 said:

Which really doesn't mean anything as half of all the permitted guns have left the State or have been passed down.

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Most of mine are about to leave the state.