fishnut 2,358 Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: No need to ask anyone anything. I have been on the front lines of this fight since I knew there was a fight. If you haven't figured it out yet, lemme spell it out for ya IF MY 15s IS GONNA BE ILLEGAL, THEN SO WILL 20s, 30s, 40s, 60s, 100s! WHY OWN 15s!?! Have fun in your new state, and keep your nuts tucked under nice and tight as you run away telling others they ain't "patriots". @capt14k, this is what I deal with. Then why own 15s in the first place? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, fishnut said: Then why own 15s in the first place? Good question 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted April 4, 2018 Then why own 15s in the first place?Hard to get 30s +Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, bhunted said: Hard to get 30s + Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Have you ever been to a PA or De cabelas or bass pro or gun Show? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted April 4, 2018 Have you ever been to a PA or De cabelas or bass pro or gun Show? Nope, yes, but many many moons ago, nope.[emoji16]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr.Stu said: Look up Keith Pantaleon. He won in the end, bit his life was turned upside down in the process. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Thanks for an answer to my question. From what I've read, there has been less than a handful that have been accused with "high cap mags". Now, out of how many gun owners in the state, over how many years, how many go shooting at the ranges over the state every week? I would guess there are quite a few "high cap" mags that go to those ranges. No one else could come up with another example. So, with hundreds of thousands of shooters, only a few have been busted. Sounds like we'd have better luck getting hit by lightning. My feeling is, it's to early to panic. Worse case scenario, we can use our 15 rounders all Summer until we have to comply by the Fall. Possibly longer if the Senate drags it's feet or some legal pushback slows the implementation of the law. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, bhunted said: Nope, yes, but many many moons ago, nope. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I haven't been in a while either but last I was at Hamburg cabelas they had a whole bin full of pmags and hexmags. Although someone here did say that cabelas or bass pro De was cleaned out recently. Still I don't think they are hard to find in free states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 4, 2018 Cabela’s DE gets wiped clean because of Maryland. You can own 30 round mags in MD, you just can’t buy them there. Stupid law because no matter where you live in MD you are within an hour drive of PA, DE, VA & WV where you can buy them. 2nd time i told you this fishy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted April 4, 2018 Jersey people buy em too. Delaware has a gun rights battle going on now also but their reps aren’t total toadsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted April 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Ray Ray said: No need to ask anyone anything. I have been on the front lines of this fight since I knew there was a fight. If you haven't figured it out yet, lemme spell it out for ya IF MY 15s IS GONNA BE ILLEGAL, THEN SO WILL 20s, 30s, 40s, 60s, 100s! WHY OWN 15s!?! Have fun in your new state, and keep your nuts tucked under nice and tight as you run away telling others they ain't "patriots". @capt14k, this is what I deal with. Let me give you some advice...... Your going to jam yourself up. *when* and *if* - for some God awful reason, saying someone dropping a dime on you - a warrant is pulled for the names contact info of users of this forum..... it will be given up easily. Then when the they look at your post above, they will have a basis for a search warrant for specific items at you place of residence. Do you really want that? Swinging ones junk around trying to impress, sometimes ends with it on a block with a dull knife ready to cut it off..... just sayin.... Resist - but be smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, USRifle30Cal said: Resist - but be smart. Agreed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 4, 2018 Let me give you some advice...... Your going to jam yourself up. *when* and *if* - for some God awful reason, saying someone dropping a dime on you - a warrant is pulled for the names contact info of users of this forum..... it will be given up easily. Then when the they look at your post above, they will have a basis for a search warrant for specific items at you place of residence. Not that anyone should be bragging about it in text if possess them or not, but do you REALLY think that police are going to be actively looking for people with 11+ round magazines? :lol: :lol: Unless we have snitches in here (you know who you are) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted April 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: Agreed 23 minutes ago, JR88USMC said: Not that anyone should be bragging about it in text if possess them or not, but do you REALLY think that police are going to be actively looking for people with 11+ round magazines? Unless we have snitches in here (you know who you are) Assuming that you don't, is foolish. Opsec right? @JR88USMC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted April 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, JR88USMC said: Not that anyone should be bragging about it in text if possess them or not, but do you REALLY think that police are going to be actively looking for people with 11+ round magazines? Unless we have snitches in here (you know who you are) You underestimate the capacity for a state with unlimited funds (when compared to us, citizens) to be petty, vindicative, driven to make a point and an example out of one us. No, they won't be knocking on doors just looking for mags. But in the course of any interaction with the police, and once your FIPD is connected to your driver's license--don't doubt that's coming soon enough, for the officer's safety, you know--the question about 10+ mags will come up. And then what? Regardless, tape it and post it on youtube for our edification. I can't comprehend the difficulty of grown men having in keeping the forking mouth shut. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 4, 2018 So wait, lemme get this straight. Having 15 rounders, which will probably be illegal is okay, but owning 30 rounders will get the cops knocking on your door? 40 minutes ago, JR88USMC said: Unless we have snitches in here (you know who you are) We eat our own 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted April 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, JR88USMC said: Unless we have snitches in here (you know who you are) would be nice to out them, if you're serious about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 4, 2018 You underestimate the capacity for a state with unlimited funds (when compared to us, citizens) to be petty, vindicative, driven to make a point and an example out of one us. No, they won't be knocking on doors just looking for mags. But in the course of any interaction with the police, and once your FIPD is connected to your driver's license--don't doubt that's coming soon enough, for the officer's safety, you know--the question about 10+ mags will come up. And then what? Regardless, tape it and post it on youtube for our edification. I can't comprehend the difficulty of grown men having in keeping the forking mouth shut. You over estimate what police have to do on a day to day basis. Simple solution: loose lips sink ships would be nice to out them, if you're serious about that.Only at Range 14 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted April 4, 2018 dammit. i only shoot there once in a blue moom...... moon too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alarmwizz 11 Posted April 4, 2018 Thats why i shoot at a private gun range . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted April 4, 2018 MID-BATTLE UPDATE: HOLD ONTO YOUR MAGAZINES! Nothing Has Been Signed Into Law Yet Recent Amendment Would Allow Retention of Blocked Magazines April 4 - ANJRPC has received reports of gun owners abandoning their (currently still legal) 15-round magazines at gun stores and other venues, under the mistaken belief that their property has been banned under A2761 - legislation that would prohibit magazines that hold over 10 rounds of ammunition. But the bill has not been signed into law yet - it has only passed in one house of the legislature. In order to become a law, a bill has to pass through BOTH houses of the legislature after being heard in committee, and then be signed by the governor. So far, A2761 has only moved through the Assembly. No hearings in the Senate have yet been scheduled, and ANJRPC sources in Trenton say that Senate action may not occur until much later this spring. Also, a significant amendment to the bill was added at an Assembly Appropriations committee hearing on March 22 after ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach harshly criticized the measure during testimony and warned lawmakers that it would stimulate waves of litigation. The amendment would extend the current practice of exempting large capacity magazines that have been modified to accept ammunition up to the statutory limit. Prior to the amendment, the legislation would have forced gun owners to either destroy, surrender, or sell their magazines. While the amendment in no way makes A2761 acceptable (it should still be vigorously opposed), it does slightly mitigate the impact of the legislation on gun owners. Additionally, the bill itself would create a 6-month "amnesty" period from the time it becomes effective, during which time gun owners could "retain possession" without penalty. Finally, court challenges being planned for the legislation also have the potential to delay or interfere with the implementation of the legislation, should it be signed into law. Bottom line: hold onto your magazines! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted April 4, 2018 "Also, a significant amendment to the bill was added at an Assembly Appropriations committee hearing on March 22 after ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach harshly criticized the measure during testimony and warned lawmakers that it would stimulate waves of litigation. The amendment would extend the current practice of exempting large capacity magazines that have been modified to accept ammunition up to the statutory limit. Prior to the amendment, the legislation would have forced gun owners to either destroy, surrender, or sell their magazines. While the amendment in no way makes A2761 acceptable (it should still be vigorously opposed), it does slightly mitigate the impact of the legislation on gun owners." Paraphrasing PK90 but just with a little more whooomp how in god's name does one go about permanently modifying a magazine to accept only 10rds when the same magazine was previously permanently restricted to 15 rds? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted April 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: Bottom line: hold onto your magazines! since Ive seen that email this morning Ive been wondering how low the intelligence of the average gun owner is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 4, 2018 I will be selling more, don't worry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: I will be selling more, don't worry. I’m selling diapers, well it depends though. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bighungry618 450 Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zeke said: I’m selling diapers, well it depends though. i see what you did there. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bighungry618 450 Posted April 4, 2018 Hell.....I'll buy p30, vp9, m&p 9mm 15 round factory mags. I don't recognize a law that ain't actually a law. EDIT: and m&p 2.0 9mm compact factory 15 rounders as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted April 4, 2018 Call me what you want, but I have cheap AR mags in the marketplace, go get em! My loss is your gain! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 4, 2018 @fishnut In defense of others and to answer your original question. It is quite possible that people may be dumping restricted mags to fund standard capacity mags. Although it would be extremely stupid to state that on the intronets.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted April 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, Zeke said: @fishnut In defense of others and to answer your original question. It is quite possible that people may be dumping restricted mags to fund standard capacity mags. Although it would be extremely stupid to state that on the intronets.. By that logic, people should be selling off their AR15s and buying up THESE 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites