Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 10, 2018 Okay, my coworker was going to apply for his firearms identification card BUT his landlord told him that he does not want firearms in his building. What are the legalities of this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted April 10, 2018 why even let the landlord know? its his right. does the lease explicitly state anything against firearms? 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted April 10, 2018 Its not up to the landlord..... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, fatty said: why even let the landlord know? its his right. does the lease explicitly state anything against firearms? This And move Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, W2MC said: Its not up to the landlord..... That's not entirely true. If it's owner occupied, then the landlord has more say but it has to be in the lease. If not owner occupied, like a single family house, a quadplex or an apartment complex, then the landlord can go pound sand. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted April 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, fatty said: why even let the landlord know? its his right. does the lease explicitly state anything against firearms? This. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted April 10, 2018 I agree with the idea of nobody needs to know nothing. In the p2p thread however there are tales of towns sending letters to employers and landlords, which to me is clearly illegalSent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted April 10, 2018 Just more of the demonization of legal gun owners that's been ratcheting up lately... and it's REALLY ticking me off. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted April 10, 2018 A quick google would reveal that this has been discussed before; as well as a wealth of information on the topic.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malice4you 627 Posted April 10, 2018 1. Unless in lease, buy guns. If in lease, still buy guns. Then buy more. 2. Pay rent with checks with pro-2A images as background. 3. Offer to host 2A/NRA BBQ or other events at his place. 4. ...? 5. Profit!* *profit may be from no longer needing to pay rent after being evicted. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted April 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, W2MC said: A quick google would reveal that this has been discussed before; as well as a wealth of information on the topic.... Of course, one would think a SUPER MOD would know this kind of stuff...... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted April 10, 2018 Now awaiting the flame..... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted April 10, 2018 Just now, W2MC said: Of course, one would think a SUPER MOD would know this kind of stuff...... Wow! You were just slapping me with the gauntlet right there! Yikes. I'll show you... Impudent mod-shaming = BANNED!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mossburger 406 Posted April 10, 2018 You know how this is going to go. He can win this fight and get his FID. Buy whatever guns he wants to. But next thing you know, he's gonna get a visit. Maybe he "pointed it at someone" or another tenant "feels unsafe because they hear gun noises" or god knows what else who ever else decides to make up to make his life a living hell. Maybe a call to the local PD about how they saw a AK-15 with extended high capacity 5,000 round clip. You wanna see real, omnipotent, godlike power, deal with local officials in a suburban town. Move out IMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted April 10, 2018 The main issue is that the landlord needs to put it in the lease. If he does, he's on the hook for increased liability for the occupants security. Most of the large complexes deal with this by putting rules on the storage of flammable products and explosives that make it seem like ammunition would be covered without actually covering ammunition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted April 11, 2018 What did he ask permission? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted April 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rob0115 said: What did he ask permission? Seriously! The phrase "loose lips sink ships" comes to mind. Why open up a can of worms? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted April 11, 2018 Two units and above are covered under DCA (Dept of Comunity Affairs). That’s where the crap about storing haz-mats comes in. If you can’t do a lawyer review on the he lease then that’s where you start with the calls for the proper department to ask whether or not he can do this. In my opinion, should you find out he can’t, and you move in the word will be out. Every punk with a pry bar or every liberal in the building will know. You’ll be subject to getting burgled while at work or spat on by Hippocrates. Find somewhere else. If it only for his card he has plenty of time to look around. Especially if he deals with the Leo dept I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted April 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said: Seriously! The phrase "loose lips sink ships" comes to mind. Why open up a can of worms? People are dum. How many times has stuff been posted on here asking legal questions? Seems to be younger people for the most part. Bad spelling and grammar, sharing too much information. Relying on the internet and media for information. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted April 11, 2018 I cant see this being legal If he's publicly renting apartments. Maybe if he was renting rooms possibly. Did i read this right that he asked the landlord about getting a firearm? Did he also ask if he can vote? 15 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said: Just more of the demonization of legal gun owners that's been ratcheting up lately... and it's REALLY ticking me off. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted April 11, 2018 14 hours ago, raz-0 said: The main issue is that the landlord needs to put it in the lease. If he does, he's on the hook for increased liability for the occupants security. Most of the large complexes deal with this by putting rules on the storage of flammable products and explosives that make it seem like ammunition would be covered without actually covering ammunition. If that then worst case just dont keep ammo in the house... A gun is not explosive. When you say explosives would things like aerosol cans be explosive? The issue with this kinda shit is people who are renting apartments hardly have the fund to hire a lawyer to go after the landlords... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted April 11, 2018 9 hours ago, remixer said: If that then worst case just dont keep ammo in the house... A gun is not explosive. When you say explosives would things like aerosol cans be explosive? The issue with this kinda shit is people who are renting apartments hardly have the fund to hire a lawyer to go after the landlords... Ammo isn't an explosive either. It's an orm-d consumer product, just like that aerosol that is not excluded in the lease. That's my point. And yeah fighting the lease won't win you a place to crash. The peril comes form the dude who gets injured by a mugger or assaulted on the property. An explicit exclusion now means they have yet one more thing to go after the landlord with. Which is why the big places with real lawyers that cost real money do their job right. You don't want to be liable for an ND or something on the property, you make it seem like they aren't allowed and say oops at trial or that you believe you banned the storage of ammo with that language. Someone gets a home invasion from the local gang bangers, you say ammo is ORM-D and not explicitly prohibited unlike the gel candles specifically mentioned in the lease. You don't know why they thought it was prohibited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reloaderguy 30 Posted April 13, 2018 Why do you people volunteer information that you don't have to?????????????????? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 13, 2018 I will find out if my coworker signed a lease. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/10/2018 at 0:17 PM, Malice4you said: 1. Unless in lease, buy guns. If in lease, still buy guns. Then buy more. 2. Pay rent with checks with pro-2A images as background. 3. Offer to host 2A/NRA BBQ or other events at his place. 4. ...? 5. Profit!* *profit may be from no longer needing to pay rent after being evicted. I like the cut of your jib, sir! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Family1st 20 Posted April 13, 2018 In the future I would recommend you're friend asking here or similar forum first. Or duckduckgo it It'll help prevent unnecessary road blocks. best of luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted April 13, 2018 18 hours ago, Ray Ray said: I will find out if my coworker signed a lease. Please tell you didn't advise him to ask his landlord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites