silverado427 10,554 Posted April 18, 2018 This D do is out of his mind. http://observer.com/2018/04/nj-politics-digest-murphy-takes-aim-increasing-gun-tax/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted April 19, 2018 Yaaaaaay! Taxes! —No One, Ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted April 19, 2018 The Dems are now totally unrestrained. If they can think of any anti-gun legislation, they will do it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, silverado427 said: This D do is out of his mind. http://observer.com/2018/04/nj-politics-digest-murphy-takes-aim-increasing-gun-tax/ it is not about Safety - it's about money - money to give to thoes who don't earn it, because they will vote the dems in office for years to come........ 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted April 19, 2018 This was unveiled over a month ago. It's not just gun tax. It's property tax and sales tax and all of the tax. To pay for tuition for illegals and nice raises for state employees and all sorts of wonderful things. Theople of NJ are truly getting what they voted for and what they deserveSent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted April 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Indianajonze said: Theople of NJ are truly getting what they voted for and what they deserve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred2 367 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, silverado427 said: This D do is out of his mind. http://observer.com/2018/04/nj-politics-digest-murphy-takes-aim-increasing-gun-tax/ If this does have a silver lining, it will be that it lets the shot gun guys know that they too, are the enemy. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted April 19, 2018 If all his tax and spend ideas come to pass, he may just kill his own party in the NJ 2019 mid-terms. One could only hope. The real power DemocRATS are not dumb and already are starting to slam the brakes on his train. He will only be a one term wonder, same as all the DemocRAT governors before him. Sorry to say after even more damage is done. I wonder which D state declares bankruptcy first. CA, IL, and NJ are leading the race. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted April 19, 2018 Taxes were crazy in this state, now they are going full insane. Just read they want to raise the 911 tax that was supposed to pay for 911 upgrades so they can upgrade the 911 system. What? Seems most of the money raised by the existing $0.90 /month tax was used for other things so they want to now raise it 10% to $0.99 / month. Sure it is small change, but all the small change adds up to real money. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Howard said: Taxes were crazy in this state, now they are going full insane. Just read they want to raise the 911 tax that was supposed to pay for 911 upgrades so they can upgrade the 911 system. What? Seems most of the money raised by the existing $0.90 /month tax was used for other things so they want to now raise it 10% to $0.99 / month. Sure it is small change, but all the small change adds up to real money. Only about 10% of that money actually went to the 911 system. When you really crunch number. Your total tax burden exceeds 50% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted April 19, 2018 Btw, I continue to contend that the biggest kick to the face for us is not the gun taxes believe it or not. It's the sales tax increase. It was lowered from 7 to 6.875 and then to 6.625 as compensation for the outrageous $0.23 gax tax which was rammed through under cover of darkness. Now we the citizens get nothing. Sales tax back to 7% and the terrible gas tax still in place. The transportation trust fund is a scan of the highest order. We have given this damn fund enough money to literally line the streets of NJ with gold, yet I still have to dodge massive potholes on rt 80 every day. You want to know NJ corruption? Take a look at the DOT and this transportation "trust" fundSent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Taxes were crazy in this state, now they are going full insane. Just read they want to raise the 911 tax that was supposed to pay for 911 upgrades so they can upgrade the 911 system. What? Seems most of the money raised by the existing $0.90 /month tax was used for other things so they want to now raise it 10% to $0.99 / month. Sure it is small change, but all the small change adds up to real money.Have you read this guy's budget? All taxes going up. All of them, for everyone, and in massive amounts. Have to pay for the sjw programs somehowSent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sevenshot 98 Posted April 19, 2018 I remember seeing on the news that the transportation fund had inexplicably been emptied. This news story wasn't followed by any major arrests. The solution? NJ now has a gas tax, That's the day I knew my wife and I weren't long for NJ. It was the iron forged straw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Sevenshot said: I remember seeing on the news that the transportation fund had inexplicably been emptied. This news story wasn't followed by any major arrests. The solution? NJ now has a gas tax, That's the day I knew my wife and I weren't long for NJ. It was the iron forged straw. The last nail in THAT coffin was Christie starting to complain about the gas tax......then...(uncharacteristically)...crickets. Obvious that he got 'told' by the gang that *really* runs the state...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 19, 2018 Step 1: kill f2f Step 2: tax to burden. Step 3: make excuses why crime is still climbing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,554 Posted April 19, 2018 Its time to recall murphy 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted April 19, 2018 The last nail in THAT coffin was Christie starting to complain about the gas tax......then...(uncharacteristically)...crickets. Obvious that he got 'told' by the gang that *really* runs the state...... Yup just like Christie backed off of Mayor Pucci in Monroe Twp Middlesex County when he was AG. Called his Administration one of the most corrupt in the state then crickets when he wanted to be governor. Pucci retired to Florida with his millions, Ron Appleby who was the code official ran out the backdoor as FBI was coming in the front and went home and committed suicide by shotgun or rifle blast to the heart (forget which). Investigation dropped, Monroe Twp corruption continues with Pucci's underlings, and Monroe Twp Residents pay some of the highest property taxes in the state, while board and committee members enjoy salaries and free health, vision, and dental insurance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, silverado427 said: Its time to recall murphy I’m game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted April 19, 2018 Love to, but we need a better standard-bearer than Kim Garbanzo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted April 19, 2018 Love to, but we need a better standard-bearer than Kim Garbanzo There were plenty. 3-4 very good candidates in that primary race. Nobody voted for themSent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Indianajonze said: There were plenty. 3-4 very good candidates in that primary race. Nobody voted for them Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk One of them spoke at Saturday’s rally Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted April 19, 2018 Today is the day.......April 19th, 1775 ......Lexington Green. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lostboy 105 Posted April 19, 2018 Yaaaaaay! Taxes! —No One, Ever. Everyone who voted for him seems to think taxes are fun.Sent from my LG-H931 using TapatalkBtw, I continue to contend that the biggest kick to the face for us is not the gun taxes believe it or not. It's the sales tax increase. It was lowered from 7 to 6.875 and then to 6.625 as compensation for the outrageous $0.23 gax tax which was rammed through under cover of darkness. Now we the citizens get nothing. Sales tax back to 7% and the terrible gas tax still in place. The transportation trust fund is a scan of the highest order. We have given this damn fund enough money to literally line the streets of NJ with gold, yet I still have to dodge massive potholes on rt 80 every day. You want to know NJ corruption? Take a look at the DOT and this transportation "trust" fundSent from my Pixel XL using TapatalkHave you read this guy's budget? All taxes going up. All of them, for everyone, and in massive amounts. Have to pay for the sjw programs somehowSent from my Pixel XL using TapatalkI absolutely agree. This is why I refused to vote for the gas tax in the first place. Sent from my LG-H931 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted April 19, 2018 If the tax passes, it's just another suit to the list of infringements. If you can't afford a license to vote, how do you afford all the "taxes" to own a firearm? We really shouldn't have to pay anything for our IDs or permits. Imagine if the courts upheld it, there would be no defense of voter IDs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted April 19, 2018 I absolutely agree. This is why I refused to vote for the gas tax in the first place. Sent from my LG-H931 using TapatalkListen, if I was of a socioeconomic status which caused me to be exempt from any taxes (federal state local) while at the same time reap the vast rewards of the taxes paid by others, I'd be all for them too. No tax could possibly be too high because I am exempt. And that, in a nutshell, is why the welfare state is so deeply flawedSent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, JackDaWack said: If the tax passes, it's just another suit to the list of infringements. If you can't afford a license to vote, how do you afford all the "taxes" to own a firearm? We really shouldn't have to pay anything for our IDs or permits. Imagine if the courts upheld it, there would be no defense of voter IDs. Unfortunately I feel we are getting into kangaroo court territory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted April 19, 2018 Listen, if I was of a socioeconomic status which caused me to be exempt from any taxes (federal state local) while at the same time reap the vast rewards of the taxes paid by others, I'd be all for them too. No tax could possibly be too high because I am exempt. And that, in a nutshell, is why the welfare state is so deeply flawed Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk I'm about ready to say screw it and be a taker. Just watched some lowlife in a 7-11 use his EBT card to buy soda and then to top it off get cash back to buy lottery tickets. All while holding up the line that I was waiting in to get a water since I am still working. Cute too that it is a blue card that says families first. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted April 19, 2018 I'm about ready to say screw it and be a taker. Just watched some lowlife in a 7-11 use his EBT card to buy soda and then to top it off get cash back to buy lottery tickets. All while holding up the line that I was waiting in to get a water since I am still working. Cute too that it is a blue card that says families first. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Record shit like that and put it out there.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,134 Posted April 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Old Glock guy said: The Dems are now totally unrestrained. If they can think of any anti-gun legislation, they will do it. Sad but true. Any way they can think of they will raise taxes. Not just on firearms. On EVERYTHING. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, JackDaWack said: If the tax passes, it's just another suit to the list of infringements. If you can't afford a license to vote, how do you afford all the "taxes" to own a firearm? We really shouldn't have to pay anything for our IDs or permits. Imagine if the courts upheld it, there would be no defense of voter IDs. I don’t know how it is constructed in his budget. If this is a new “tax” on firearms then there is a case. If it is raising the “fee” for NJSP to be a NICS proxy then it probably cant be fought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted April 19, 2018 Record shit like that and put it out there.Sent from my iPad using TapatalkI'm never quick enough on the draw. Plus I didn't notice till the card was pulled out and he was handed cash.Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites