fishnut 2,358 Posted May 5, 2018 http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/05/daniel-zimmerman/smith-wesson-reintroduces-the-model-19/ My first handgun was a 19-2. I'm thinking it's lonely and needs a friend like the new carry model from the performance center! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted May 5, 2018 How much for the one WITHOUT the "Hillary Hole"? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted May 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, W2MC said: How much for the one WITHOUT the "Hillary Hole"? I wish........but they are easy enough to disable and plug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted May 5, 2018 Fondled it at the show, not sure it will take place of my 686Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Purple Patrick said: Fondled it at the show, not sure it will take place of my 686 Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk It isn't supposed to. It is meant as a duty or carry 357. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sevenshot 98 Posted May 5, 2018 I don't mind the lock as much as others but why do they still put them on new models? Hildog's political career is over, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted May 6, 2018 So Pizza BOB - What's my 19-2 4" with original box and papers worth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted May 6, 2018 It isn't supposed to. It is meant as a duty or carry 357.Pssshhh duty or carry revolver? What is this 1890? Or 1990 if you are a NYC cop(No hate to the police intended)Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Purple Patrick said: Pssshhh duty or carry revolver? What is this 1890? Or 1990 if you are a NYC cop That was the original purpose of the 19. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted May 6, 2018 I still love my Model 19 4 inch! I bought her new in the box in 1979 and everything about her still impresses me like the day I first held her in my hands. Wish I could say the same about my wife! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimB1 554 Posted May 6, 2018 I like them. I’d have to see one in person though. A lot of newer blued guns don’t look nearly as nice as their older counterparts to me. The older bluing processes worked better but were more hazardous to the workers. I like the newer model 66 too in stainless. As a civilian I don’t think I’d feel undergunned with 6 rounds of 357 or even some of the hotter 38 special +p. Reality is that this in NJ so carry is not going to happen here for a long time, if ever, so if I decide to get one, it’d be a dresser gun. Revolvers are great at that task imho and if there’s something in my house in the middle of the night that 6 rounds of 357 can’t handle then there is something extremely wrong in the world... -Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted May 6, 2018 If its got the lock it don't rock, why even bother......the older revos are a thing of beauty, stupid hole ruins it. Like looking at a hot babe with a hairy wart on her face Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 6, 2018 What is with everyone complaining about the frame lock??? It's there. Big deal. You don't have to use it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted May 6, 2018 The lock has been known to fail and lock the whole gun up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted May 6, 2018 4 hours ago, High Exposure said: The lock has been known to fail and lock the whole gun up. Not to say that it doesn't happen but I've only ever read about it - I've never seen it. My understanding is that the accidentally engaging failure is more likely to occur on lightweight, high recoil guns. Think 329 PD (<30 oz .44 Magnum or the 11 oz J-frames). If it really worries you, remove the locking pieces - takes about 15 minutes. If you object on aesthetic grounds, you can purchase a plug to fill the hole - and before someone objects to that on aesthetic grounds, I suggest you look at your pre-lock Smiths and you'll see that there was a frame plug there on the old guns anyway. Buy it, shoot it, enjoy it. Adios, Pizza Bob @Old School: $650 to $800 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted May 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Pizza Bob said: Not to say that it doesn't happen but I've only ever read about it - I've never seen it. My understanding is that the accidentally engaging failure is more likely to occur on lightweight, high recoil guns. Think 329 PD (<30 oz .44 Magnum or the 11 oz J-frames). If it really worries you, remove the locking pieces - takes about 15 minutes. If you object on aesthetic grounds, you can purchase a plug to fill the hole - and before someone objects to that on aesthetic grounds, I suggest you look at your pre-lock Smiths and you'll see that there was a frame plug there on the old guns anyway. Buy it, shoot it, enjoy it. Adios, Pizza Bob No fugly plug on my old 15-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted May 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, siderman said: No fugly plug on my old 15-2. It's there, yours was very well pressed in and polished before bluing. It's on all S&W revolvers. It's the hammer stud and it is pressed into the frame. Here's an old pre Model 10 (an M&P) - rather prominent on this one with the age and finish loss... And here's a newer one, with the IL a Model 357, with a Scandium frame and a stainless pin - which makes it very easy to see... It varies from gun to gun dependent on quality of polishing before finishing. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 6, 2018 5 hours ago, High Exposure said: The lock has been known to fail and lock the whole gun up. Fake news Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Pizza Bob said: It's there, yours was very well pressed in and polished before bluing. It's on all S&W revolvers. It's the hammer stud and it is pressed into the frame. Here's an old pre Model 10 (an M&P) - rather prominent on this one with the age and finish loss... And here's a newer one, with the IL a Model 357, with a Scandium frame and a stainless pin - which makes it very easy to see... It varies from gun to gun dependent on quality of polishing before finishing. Adios, Pizza Bob How about that, it is there practically invisible. Had to put a magnifying glass to it to see it. Was focusing on the top side of the button where the current lock is. I suppose since mine has only a few rnds thru it the the recoil hasn't had a chance to open up the seam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
runcibleman 28 Posted June 24, 2018 Kinda necroposting here almost two months on, but I fell in love with GFH's old green painted renta-beater 19 (a 19-4, to be precise) with the 6" barrel, and so I've since ordered two of them. I can pick up my 19-3 next week finally, and then another 6"-er, a 19-4 CHP anniversary edition, brand new, unfired in the presentation case. What a gorgeous gun and what a shooter! So, seems like I'm a wheel-gun man after all, though I'm [barely] a millenial young buck. There is just something so peaceful and comfortable about shooting a big, all-steel revolver with some nice soft-recoiling .38 Specials. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites