capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 That's because you guys are ok with NFA. I am not. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said: No matter who Trump picks, it will be exponentially better than a Hillary pick. I can't even imagine the utter devastation her picks would have inflicted on our Constitution. But why settle for better than any Hillary pick if we could get somebody that's ideal? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted July 10, 2018 I’m excited 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 10, 2018 they just announced kavanaugh. isn't he a "not-so-good" choice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 they just announced kavanaugh. isn't he a "not-so-good" choice?He was the worst of the 6. Hopefully RBG doesn't pass away before Pence is voted in. I hope Pence runs against Trump. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted July 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, capt14k said: He was the worst of the 6. Fuck Trump. Hopefully RBG doesn't pass away before Pence is voted in. I hope Pence runs against Trump. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk He may not have been a #1 but “worst of the 6”? C’mon.. He may not be as good as Harriman but he has pro-2A decisions behind him, unlike Barrett and the others. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 We could have had what the MSM calls a "Pro 2A extremist". Who drove a cab to get through school. Instead we got an only child, son of lawyers, cocktail republican. The elite stick with the elite and we get it shoved up our asses. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk He may not have been a #1 but “worst of the 6”? C’mon.. He may not be as good as Harriman but he has pro-2A decisions behind him, unlike Barrett and the others. Barrett had no 2A decisions that I could find neither did Thapur but they are ultra conservative. Not only children raised by rich Lawyers. We got the shaft. Kennedy 2.0 except Kennedy actually practiced law.Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted July 10, 2018 Never happy....Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 Never happy....Sent from my iPad using TapatalkDamn right I'm not. Where is National carry? Repeal of Hughes Amendment? Slowing down of States taking away 2A Rights. Not a damn thing has been or will be done. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TokenEntry 293 Posted July 10, 2018 I'm siding with @capt14k on this one. Although, Kavanaugh is a conservative, Hardiman would have been the better pick for the 2nd Amendment overall. Regards, TokenEntry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 10, 2018 Kavanaugh, who has served on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit since 2006, dissented from a 2011 decision in which a three-judge panel upheld the District of Columbia's ban on so-called assault weapons and its requirement that all guns be registered. Kavanaugh disagreed with the majority's use of "intermediate scrutiny," saying an analysis "based on text, history, and tradition" is more consistent with the Supreme Court's Second Amendment precedents. The D.C. "assault weapon" ban covers a list of specific models as well as guns that meet certain criteria. A semi-automatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine is illegal, for instance, if it has any of six prohibited features, including an adjustable stock, a pistol grip, or a flash suppressor. "The list appears to be haphazard," Kavanaugh noted. "It bans certain semi-automatic rifles but not others—with no particular explanation or rationale for why some made the list and some did not." In any case, he concluded, the law is inconsistent with the landmark 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 I'm siding with [mention=8404]capt14k[/mention] on this one. Although, Kavanaugh is a conservative, Hardiman would have been the better pick for the 2nd Amendment overall. Regards, TokenEntryI really think we got another Kennedy. His background is terrible. That's Trump and his elitist BS that judge had to go to Ivy League school.Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 10, 2018 In Heller," Kavanaugh noted, "the Supreme Court held that handguns—the vast majority of which today are semi-automatic—are constitutionally protected because they have not traditionally been banned and are in common use by law-abiding citizens. There is no meaningful or persuasive constitutional distinction between semi-automatic handguns and semi-automatic rifles. Semi-automatic rifles, like semi-automatic handguns, have not traditionally been banned and are in common use by law-abiding citizens for self-defense in the home, hunting, and other lawful uses. Moreover, semi-automatic handguns are used in connection with violent crimes far more than semi-automatic rifles are. It follows from Heller's protection of semi-automatic handguns that semi-automatic rifles are also constitutionally protected and that D.C.'s ban on them is unconstitutional." Although Heller suggested that various "longstanding" gun restrictions would pass constitutional muster, Kavanaugh said, D.C.'s gun registration system does not qualify. "Because the vast majority of states have not traditionally required and even now do not require registration of lawfully possessed guns," he wrote, "D.C.'s registration law—which is the strictest in the Nation and mandates registration of all guns—does not satisfy the history- and tradition-based test set forth in Heller." Kavanaugh also is sensitive to the constitutional implications of regulations that interfere with freedom of speech. In 2009, a year before the Supreme Court overturned statutory restrictions on the political speech of unions and corporations in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, he wrote an opinion rejecting FEC rules that made it harder for advocacy groups to raise money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 Kavanaugh, who has served on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit since 2006, dissented from a 2011 decision in which a three-judge panel upheld the District of Columbia's ban on so-called assault weapons and its requirement that all guns be registered. Kavanaugh disagreed with the majority's use of "intermediate scrutiny," saying an analysis "based on text, history, and tradition" is more consistent with the Supreme Court's Second Amendment precedents. The D.C. "assault weapon" ban covers a list of specific models as well as guns that meet certain criteria. A semi-automatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine is illegal, for instance, if it has any of six prohibited features, including an adjustable stock, a pistol grip, or a flash suppressor. "The list appears to be haphazard," Kavanaugh noted. "It bans certain semi-automatic rifles but not others—with no particular explanation or rationale for why some made the list and some did not." In any case, he concluded, the law is inconsistent with the landmark 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller.There is only one way to interpret the Second Amendment and that is the way it is written. Kavanaugh's dissent leaves open allowing bans and Anti-2A laws. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 10, 2018 https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/06/scotus-contender-brett-kavanaugh-on-gun Just now, capt14k said: There is only one way to interpret the Second Amendment and that is the way it is written. Kavanaugh's dissent leaves open allowing bans and Anti-2A laws. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk on one hand i agree...on the other hand not. it leaves open the opportunity to attempt such....but it appears as if he along with the other conservatives would go against such bans if brought to the sc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 In Heller," Kavanaugh noted, "the Supreme Court held that handguns—the vast majority of which today are semi-automatic—are constitutionally protected because they have not traditionally been banned and are in common use by law-abiding citizens. There is no meaningful or persuasive constitutional distinction between semi-automatic handguns and semi-automatic rifles. Semi-automatic rifles, like semi-automatic handguns, have not traditionally been banned and are in common use by law-abiding citizens for self-defense in the home, hunting, and other lawful uses. Moreover, semi-automatic handguns are used in connection with violent crimes far more than semi-automatic rifles are. It follows from Heller's protection of semi-automatic handguns that semi-automatic rifles are also constitutionally protected and that D.C.'s ban on them is unconstitutional." Although Heller suggested that various "longstanding" gun restrictions would pass constitutional muster, Kavanaugh said, D.C.'s gun registration system does not qualify. "Because the vast majority of states have not traditionally required and even now do not require registration of lawfully possessed guns," he wrote, "D.C.'s registration law—which is the strictest in the Nation and mandates registration of all guns—does not satisfy the history- and tradition-based test set forth in Heller." Kavanaugh also is sensitive to the constitutional implications of regulations that interfere with freedom of speech. In 2009, a year before the Supreme Court overturned statutory restrictions on the political speech of unions and corporations in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, he wrote an opinion rejecting FEC rules that made it harder for advocacy groups to raise money.I assume you are showing proof why he was a bad pick? No chance of NFA, GCA, Hughes Amendment being overturned by Kavanaugh because they pass the history and tradition test of his, regardless if they are in violation of the Second AmendmentSent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TokenEntry 293 Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, capt14k said: I really think we got another Kennedy. His background is terrible. That's Trump and his elitist BS that judge had to go to Ivy League school. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Hopefully, that isn't the case with Kavanaugh. Definitely, Hardiman would have been a better pick where we can reclaim our 2nd Amendment Rights back instead of further encroachment is halted. I could be wrong about this, but this is how I see it and only time will tell. Regards, TokenEntry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 Hopefully, that isn't the case with Kavanaugh. Definitely, Hardiman would have been a better pick where we can reclaim our 2nd Amendment Rights back instead of further encroachment is halted. I could be wrong about this, but this is how I see it and only time will tell. Regards, TokenEntry That's the best we can hope for with Kavanaugh is the prevention of further encroachment. With Hardiman we had a chance at overturning NFA, GCA, and everything else. The biggest problem I see with the pick is SCOTUS will not be granting Cert to 2A cases anytime soon. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 10, 2018 Hardiman will replace the cript keeper when her skeleton falls off the chair. This was an easy pick, he is better then the man he replaced. So, going by that we are ahead of the game. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted July 10, 2018 Again, basing one decision and the president sux. Geezus.... Hillary for 2020 right guys?[emoji37]Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkImpeach 45! Impeach 45!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, bhunted said: Again, basing one decision and the president sux. Geezus.... Hillary for 2020 right guys? I am amazed on some of these comments here. We are doing great, this guy is replacing a wishy washy, middle of the ground game killer. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 Hardiman will replace the cript keeper when her skeleton falls off the chair. This was an easy pick, he is better then the man he replaced. So, going by that we are ahead of the game. If Pence is POTUS.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, capt14k said: If Pence is POTUS. She will be gone after the next election, mark my words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 I am amazed on some of these comments here. We are doing great, this guy is replacing a wishy washy, middle of the ground game killer. I will being willing to wager Cert denied continues. He replaced Kennedy with Kennedy 2.0Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TokenEntry 293 Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, capt14k said: That's the best we can hope for with Kavanaugh is the prevention of further encroachment. With Hardiman we had a chance at overturning NFA, GCA, and everything else. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Agreed. You guys have to understand that we're not saying Kavanaugh is a bad pick, but Hardiman would have been the better choice. I guess we'll have to wait on Ginsburg replacement to see how this will play out. Regards, TokenEntry 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted July 10, 2018 Impeach 45!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 She will be gone after the next election, mark my words. I agree and I hope Trump doesn't run again. Trump has done some great things. Restoring the Second is not one of them and is nowhere near the top of his list.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted July 10, 2018 We don’t need to understand anything. I can curse like a sailor but Eff Trump because you didn’t get your pick? This is a leftist mentality. Its bs!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: She will be gone after the next election, mark my words. congressional or presidential? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 10, 2018 Agreed. You guys have to understand that we're not saying Kavanaugh is a bad pick, but Hardiman would have been the better choice. I guess we'll have to wait on Ginsburg replacement to see how this will play out. Regards, TokenEntryThat is exactly it. Kennedy wasn't terrible, but he wasn't strong Pro 2A either. Everyone seems to forget too that Justices get more Liberal as they age. Even happened with Scalia. Thomas is the only one who has held pat.Sent from my iPad using TapatalkWe don’t need to understand anything. I can curse like a sailor but Eff Trump because you didn’t get your pick? This is a leftist mentality. Its bs!Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI deleted it you whiny little girl. Go cry over the news being posted some more.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites