revenger 472 Posted July 3, 2018 what would the value be of 10+ round mags in NJ be for the purpose of establishing a market value, in case the state relents and is going to compensate owners for their property. I have 6 P-mags that I would like 100k a piece for, this way NJ can fund my move out of this shithole state. since the market decides the value lets start trading our mags , you buy mine for 600k and ill buy yours for 600k we will therefore establish a market value, ill get a receipt book from staples for proof. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malice4you 627 Posted July 3, 2018 You're severely undervaluing your mags. After all, those mags aren't your run-of-the-mill standard Pmags - they are limited edition, now limited run versions. Plus they were way more expensive than standard Pmags to begin with... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, revenger said: what would the value be of 10+ round mags in NJ be for the purpose of establishing a market value, in case the state relents and is going to compensate owners for their property. I have 6 P-mags that I would like 100k a piece for, this way NJ can fund my move out of this shithole state. since the market decides the value lets start trading our mags , you buy mine for 600k and ill buy yours for 600k we will therefore establish a market value, ill get a receipt book from staples for proof. I don't think that will work. Ask me for more details and I'll tell you why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJGF 375 Posted July 3, 2018 Actually the mags are worth way more. Figure the value of your life. As they say priceless! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 472 Posted July 3, 2018 I have to agree with NJGF, the mags have the value of freedom, life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness. therefore priceless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted July 3, 2018 NO....The 15 round mags suck too! We here in the PRNJ have been brainwashed to adore our 15 rounders but life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness starts at 30 rounds and goes up from there! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 3, 2018 The state will not relent and pay. Compensation is based on market value there would have to be millions of sales to bring value up that much. 30 rounders are $10. At best we can hope for is $10 + cost to convert. Some scumbag FFL would jump at the opportunity to bid his services to convert them. Probably more than one in this state. Maybe we would get $30 a mag compensation. Edit: Not all FFL are scumbags just the ones who would jump at the chance to profit at freedoms expense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted July 3, 2018 Yes the market decides but something that is for sale and has not sold does not dictate market price. For the value of a p mag to be 100k you’d need an observable market, e.g. buyers, willing to buy at that price. The state would use past sales making your mags worth about 15 bucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mossburger 406 Posted July 3, 2018 You're looking at this all wrong. 15 round magazines are neutered garbage. When firearms like the AR-15 were designed, the capacity of rounds is an inherent part of the cartridge and firearm designed. M1 Garand took 8 because 8x 30-06 fit nicely into the receiver and you can shoot prone without it in the way, as was part of how the weapon was used at the time. Other firearms later came around with closer-range, more fast paced shooting in mind such as the M14 and BAR, and rounds like the .308 and 30-06 were found to be cumbersome even in 20 round quantity. The German 7.92 kurz in the STG-44 is shorter (kurz) than the full size Mauser round, as is the 7.62x39 (SKS & AK) shorter than the x54r in the Mosin Nagant. A big part of the 5.56x45 design is the ability to reload less, and carry far more ammunition. Remember these are design considerations for lugging cases off a truck, hiking for dozens of miles, etc. Not just back and forth to your car at the range. The AR-15, AK-47, etc. are 30 round firearms. Anti-gun advocates have successfully fooled many gun owners, both "free" ones and non, into using terms like "high capacity magazine" or thinking that adjustable stocks are some badass thing. When really these are machines, inanimate objects made for specific engineering reasons no different than why a frying pan and a bridge use different gauges of steel and different alloys for their construction. Every warrior has a weapon based on his usage. The Roman Gladius is ~18" long, why not give him an English longsword at 36"? Because wielding a 36" sword in a shield wall formation you're just going to kill your fellow Legionaries. And hand the Gladius to a knight, well have fun trying to fight on horseback with a large knife! IN. COMMON. USAGE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJGF 375 Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnnyB said: NO....The 15 round mags suck too! We here in the PRNJ have been brainwashed to adore our 15 rounders but life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness starts at 30 rounds and goes up from there! Are you telling me my 100 round drums are not legal in PRNJ. OMG! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[email protected] 57 Posted July 3, 2018 If nm i had 10pk for every pmag i had ib be able to buy the company Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang69 503 Posted July 3, 2018 If you look at prices the state offers during gun buybacks (where assault weapons are worth what, $200) and compare those prices to reality, the state will say our mags are worth about $1. It's all mental masturbation anyway - I don't believe the state will pay anything for them, nor will the courts force them to. At best the court order MIGHT mean the state offers grandfathering ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 4, 2018 You're looking at this all wrong. 15 round magazines are neutered garbage. When firearms like the AR-15 were designed, the capacity of rounds is an inherent part of the cartridge and firearm designed. M1 Garand took 8 because 8x 30-06 fit nicely into the receiver and you can shoot prone without it in the way, as was part of how the weapon was used at the time. Other firearms later came around with closer-range, more fast paced shooting in mind such as the M14 and BAR, and rounds like the .308 and 30-06 were found to be cumbersome even in 20 round quantity. The German 7.92 kurz in the STG-44 is shorter (kurz) than the full size Mauser round, as is the 7.62x39 (SKS & AK) shorter than the x54r in the Mosin Nagant. A big part of the 5.56x45 design is the ability to reload less, and carry far more ammunition. Remember these are design considerations for lugging cases off a truck, hiking for dozens of miles, etc. Not just back and forth to your car at the range. The AR-15, AK-47, etc. are 30 round firearms. Anti-gun advocates have successfully fooled many gun owners, both "free" ones and non, into using terms like "high capacity magazine" or thinking that adjustable stocks are some badass thing. When really these are machines, inanimate objects made for specific engineering reasons no different than why a frying pan and a bridge use different gauges of steel and different alloys for their construction. Every warrior has a weapon based on his usage. The Roman Gladius is ~18" long, why not give him an English longsword at 36"? Because wielding a 36" sword in a shield wall formation you're just going to kill your fellow Legionaries. And hand the Gladius to a knight, well have fun trying to fight on horseback with a large knife! IN. COMMON. USAGE. BAR was before Garand.BAR & M-14 have their uses. Sometimes 5.56 just doesn't cut it.Germans figured out solution to larger capacity full size rifle round mags in prone position with the FG-42. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mossburger 406 Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, capt14k said: BAR was before Garand. BAR & M-14 have their uses. Sometimes 5.56 just doesn't cut it. Germans figured out solution to larger capacity full size rifle round mags in prone position with the FG-42. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I hear you. Personally I don't even like 5.56 in semi-auto firearms. I was just going through things in general. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted July 4, 2018 I hear you. Personally I don't even like 5.56 in semi-auto firearms. I was just going through things in general. I know I can't help responding about Milsurps on this forum. It is much more interesting to me than short shotguns that for years if you wanted one a hacksaw was all that was needed. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites