Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted July 24, 2018 Another interesting ruling from the 9th circuit. Frankly, I'm a little confused by what it all means! It seems they have said in this particular case, "No! Hawaii may not restrict the citizenry to carrying ONLY within their home." On the other hand, it seems it left another earlier ruling in place that doesn't guarantee a right to carry outside the house either. Sooo…. what's that all mean? I guess as it stands now, the state doesn't have to say "everyone can carry in public" but nor can they say "No one can carry in public"...? In other words, it still allows Hawaii to place SOME restrictions? So, I guess the next cases will test what restrictions are reasonable...? And which are not? (Much like we're challenging the concept of justifiable need in NJ?) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-court/u-s-appeals-court-constitution-gives-right-to-carry-gun-in-public-idUSKBN1KE28C?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter Anyway, my head hurts... and I don't have time to research other articles that might provide more clarity. If someone has greater insight, or can verify that I'm understanding this correctly...feel free to weigh in. Thx. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted July 24, 2018 Stolen from someone on FB... "They decided Peruta v County of San Diego on the same grounds. The right is to both keep and bear arms. Since California (thanks to the NRA and Ronnie Reagan) prohibits open carry, California must allow concealed carry for the "bearing" of arms. Peruta was then reversed en banc and cert denied by the Supremes." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldguysrule649 397 Posted July 24, 2018 Judging soley by the wording of the Reuter's article you linked to, perhaps the distinction is between "openly carrying" vs "concealed carry". Ie this new ruling is in favor of open carry outside the home while the earlier ruling may speak to concealed carry in particular not being allowed in public. Would need to read the court document itself but no time now to do that at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted July 24, 2018 Yeah, you are both correct - it's about the difference between concealed and open carry. Looks like this one, too, could be on its way to SCOTUS. I found a better article - makes things a bit more clear: https://reason.com/volokh/2018/07/24/ninth-circuit-second-amendment-secures-r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted July 24, 2018 Next move is to have another hearing on this en banc to nullify the original decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted July 25, 2018 I realize I put a stupid title on this...which is probably one reason why there's a later thread with better articles and more comments. Locking this. Please go here instead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites