SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted August 15, 2018 as the title says i just inadvertently found one of my pistols in an armslist add, no mistake about it. guy is claiming stock photos in the add. why the hell do people sell things they arent smart enough to take pictures of? judging from google image search, the photo was lifted from NJGF http://www.armslist.com/posts/8328712/huntsville-alabama-handguns-for-sale-trade--zastava-m70a Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted August 15, 2018 Did you have the photo copyrighted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted August 15, 2018 I think he is selling the gun to fund a camera.......... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted August 15, 2018 no copyright. not lookin to pursue the photo, more of 2 concerns 1, everything we put here is really easy to find. (not comply thread anyone?) 2, that is not the gun whoever buys that thing is gonna get. its not even a picture of a stock gun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted August 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, PK90 said: Did you have the photo copyrighted? This is America, you don't have to file for copyright to own the copyright. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted August 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, SuRrEaLNJ said: 1, everything we put here is really easy to find. (not comply thread anyone?) Really...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted August 16, 2018 17 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said: Really...... notice i tend to not incriminate myself here. its a public forum. more for the sake of others i swear when i say things they make sense in my own head Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Screwball 483 Posted August 16, 2018 I had someone on AR15.com using one of my old S&W 642-1 pictures, from back when I had the Hogue Monogrip on it. He was using it as an example, which I didn’t have an issue with, but wasn’t on my PhotoBucket anymore (was using back then).I sent him a message, very politely, asking how he got that photo. I also asked him to stop hosting it, as it was mine and wasn’t asked for my permission to use it. No reply...So, posted in the thread and gave a current picture of my gun (they all tend to have the same background... carpet in my office/gun room). Conversation continued as if I didn’t even post... even with the second half of my post saying why I didn’t like the grip and switched (turns a J-frame into almost an L/K-frame grip). Nothing.Reported it to AR.15.com... and nothing was done.Long/short of it... once you host something online, it isn’t yours anymore. People don’t give a damn about it.If I post a picture that someone else hosted, I direct it from the original address. If the owner wants to remove it, it goes away. If someone wants to inquire about it, go to the source and contact them through whatever method available. Figure that is a little better than me “stealing” it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malice4you 627 Posted August 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, Screwball said: Long/short of it... once you host something online, it isn’t yours anymore. People don’t give a damn about it. If I post a picture that someone else hosted, I direct it from the original address. If the owner wants to remove it, it goes away. If someone wants to inquire about it, go to the source and contact them through whatever method available. Figure that is a little better than me “stealing” it... I have my own website and use it primarily as a host for pictures and files. It allows me to see statistics such as who is linking to what, as well as error logs for peple trying to access files which no longer exist. Files which have not been on my server for 10 years are still linked to/[attempted] accessed, and people all over the world access files I only shared with a small localized audience. It has reduced my sharing of my photography for sure, and I often will not share any high resolution photos of anything anymore. The other option is a large, annoying watermark covering much of the important areas of the photo so it is too hard to remove (instead of a corner watermark that can be cropped away or cloned out). I never really thought about my (gun) photos being used to scam people, but I am sure it is possible. I didn't even get to see the listing, it was flagged as a scam by the time I got to it, so at least they didnt get someone this time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted August 16, 2018 i sent armslist a message identifying myself as the owner of the gun in the picture, and that the gun being sold in the add didn't have some of the mods such as the sight that mine did, so i guess they had issue with it. i just so happened to be looking for m70a mags, which i do from time to time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Screwball 483 Posted August 16, 2018 Yea, I used to put my screen name on the pictures... then said screw it.Fraud is definitely something I worry about. Some of my guns are pretty unique, and don’t want to see someone screwed over from my pictures... or worse, be accused of fraud. But the end of the day, scumbags are going to do scummy things. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted August 16, 2018 This is why I black out serial numbers on the photos of my guns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malice4you 627 Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said: This is why I black out serial numbers on the photos of my guns I photoshop mine out - looks like the factory never put one on. Should be right above the trigger guard. And I should put a watermark on it, but that one has been posted a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted August 16, 2018 8 hours ago, SuRrEaLNJ said: notice i tend to not incriminate myself here. its a public forum. Gimme an example Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuRrEaLNJ 294 Posted August 17, 2018 of me not incriminating myself, or of others doing it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakridgefirearms 224 Posted August 18, 2018 I had someone steal a photo of a pistol I listed on Gun Broker and post it on Armslist. I reported it to Armslist as fraud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMWR12 35 Posted August 18, 2018 Unfortunately this happens all the time on there. I report a lot of ads on there as scams because they are. I would not buy anything that you don’t do a ftf sale on or buy from a legit business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites