Matroskin 29 Posted November 6, 2018 Folks and@capt14k What would you buy:Czech VZ24 in good condition for 350Or Mosin 91/30 in excellent condition for 380 Both rifles are non matching.For the record, it a first milsurp rifle for me. My consideration is ammo availability, since I’m not reloading, and accuracy for 100 to 300 yards ( if I can put clamp on optics on it) Can you make a recommendation? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,871 Posted November 6, 2018 VZ24 will be better overall. German design, tighter tolerances. Ammo can be had cheaper than Russian Milsurp mosin food now... SGAmmo has 8mm mauser for about 50c/round shipped. Price for 7.62x54R has gone up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted November 6, 2018 I'd go for the VZ24. Czechs were interested in building a fine battle rifle. Russians were interested in building one "good enough". Outside of a Finnish Mosin accuracy can be hit or miss with a Russian one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted November 6, 2018 I'm not a fan of mauser's in terms of milsurp but if you do decide to go the mosin route, you should definitely be able to find one well under $380 and also have matching numbers. Or spend around $400 and get a Finnish mosin like a reworked 91/30 or m91. Or spend $500-600 for a Finnish m39 or m27 and you'll get one of the most accurate milsurp guns in that -$600 range IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matroskin 29 Posted November 6, 2018 Looked up the gunbroker, seem like mosin is overpriced.. VZ24 then. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted November 6, 2018 Mosin is way over priced if it is a Russian. Finn Capture about right. Finn Tikka good price. Hungarian or Romanian it is a steal. Vz24 has a ton of variables. Rampant Lion? Romanian? Crest no Crest? Chinese. German used. Beat up Brazilian insurgent model? More variables than the Mosin. I would need more info, ideally pics to give the correct answer. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matroskin 29 Posted November 6, 2018 No pics but there is a lion stamped on the receiver. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted November 6, 2018 No pics but there is a lion stamped on the receiver. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Well now we are getting somewhere. Rampant Lion Czech. Most likely mismatched. What about the Mosin barrel by the receiver what is on that. Are there metal sling hangers on the Mosin. Any SA mark on the side of the barrel. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matroskin 29 Posted November 6, 2018 Mosin has round receiver, stamped with 1942 hammer and sickle. Matching bayonet and magazine.VZ24 complely mismatched, bolt has the only matching numbers, no clear date, there is a 4 digit number followed by "P4" on the side of the receiver and "3(small lion) 38" marking Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted November 7, 2018 Mosin has round receiver, stamped with 1942 hammer and sickle. Matching bayonet and magazine.VZ24 complely mismatched, bolt has the only matching numbers, no clear date, there is a 4 digit number followed by "P4" on the side of the receiver and "3(small lion) 38" marking Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkVz24 is a no brainier and well worth the price. Bolt matching Czech Military issued. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMWR12 35 Posted November 7, 2018 I don’t think either of them is worth the asking price if they are not matching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted November 7, 2018 I don’t think either of them is worth the price if they are not matching.Have you seen complete mismatch Rampant Lions selling lately? They are going for $400. Cheapest I have seen were beat up and were still over $300. Bolt match $500-600. An all original Czech Matching Rampant Lion just sold for $2,500. German used original matching $1,600. Romanian and Chinese force matched are also getting $500-600. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted November 8, 2018 @Matroskin did you get the vz24? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matroskin 29 Posted November 8, 2018 @capt14k yes I got it, can't wait to see how it shoots Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted November 8, 2018 @capt14k yes I got it, can't wait to see how it shoots Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkCool. If you said you passed I was going to ask where it was lol. They are very hard to find in original matching Condition with Rampant Lion Crest. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matroskin 29 Posted November 8, 2018 Haha, makes me feel better [emoji4] BTW, when I was picking it up, the second sales person started to complain that they priced the rifle lower than they should have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites