voyager9 3,433 Posted November 14, 2018 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/7115/text?r=1 Check out this shit. To prohibit the sale, acquisition, distribution in commerce, or import into the United States of certain firearm receiver castings or blanks, assault weapon parts kits, and machinegun parts kits and the marketing or advertising of such castings or blanks and kits on any medium of electronic communications, to require homemade firearms to have serial numbers, and for other purposes. oh. And this. (2) the term “assault weapon parts kit” means any part or combination of parts designed and intended to enable a consumer who possesses all such necessary parts to assemble a semiautomatic assault weapon; Any part necessary to assemble a semi-auto “assault weapon”. Think about that. And it was submitted by Frank Pallone (D-NJ). So don’t think our lovely local legislature hasn’t already cut and pasted this for Smurphy to rubber stamp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,321 Posted November 14, 2018 It's just the tumor that is New Jersey trying to spread. It will never fly. Even if it passed the House under Dem control, the Senate will never pass it! "assault weapon" must be defined in plain English in the bill. The AR15 is NOT an assault weapon and current law already prohibits possession of an assault weapon without jumping through many hoops! Assault weapon = Weapon the military generally uses and has "select fire capabilities," or the capability to switch between semi-automatic or a fully automatic mode. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted November 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: "assault weapon" must be defined in plain English in the bill. The AR15 is NOT an assault weapon and current law already prohibits possession of an assault weapon without jumping through many hoops! What if they just copy and paste that list of semi-autos that they used in the mag bill? That seems to cover a lot of hardware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,321 Posted November 14, 2018 Yeah, lots of hardware but not "assault weapons" by accepted definition! This bill is going nowhere. What flies here in the PRNJ will not fly in America! At least not just yet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted November 14, 2018 Feel good measure designed to "See, I tried to introduce gun control but the Republicans don't care." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 548 Posted November 15, 2018 I am growing tired of buying legal things then some FUCKHEAD tells us it isn't legal anymore. I think there is a law against it. I am going to leave this state but I will leave a big pile of shit along with my last tax payment. Go fuck yourself Democrats. You are all alike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Tunaman said: I am growing tired of buying legal things then some FUCKHEAD tells us it isn't legal anymore. I think there is a law against it. I am going to leave this state but I will leave a big pile of shit along with my last tax payment. Go fuck yourself Democrats. You are all alike. Most aren’t leaving that tax payment... it’s all bout the money in the end Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bully 749 Posted November 15, 2018 21 hours ago, Maksim said: Feel good measure designed to "See, I tried to introduce gun control but the Republicans don't care." Problem is, it's working. It's changing "hearts and minds" even of those that say that they're pro gun. Most likely it won't pass this time. However it won't go away. It'll get used as a tool to reshape the mindset of America as a whole. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmittyMHS 603 Posted November 15, 2018 46 minutes ago, Bully said: Problem is, it's working. It's changing "hearts and minds" even of those that say that they're pro gun. Most likely it won't pass this time. However it won't go away. It'll get used as a tool to reshape the mindset of America as a whole. How do you eat an elephant? ...one bite at a time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 9:59 PM, JohnnyB said: Yeah, lots of hardware but not "assault weapons" by accepted definition! This bill is going nowhere. Don't count on that.. They've been using the term "assault weapons" for quite a while and have been inserting it in other bills. They don't care if it's accurate or not. Until they get push back from a Conservative judge (which AIN'T going to happen), they'll just continue to use it as a "catch all" term. And the 2A community will continue to bend over and take it in the shorts and never push back. What this bill does is makes ALL parts and kits for AR's illegal (complete uppers, and every add on component), It's the next step to a complete semi-auto ban. Forget about building anything if this passes. 3 hours ago, Bully said: Most likely it won't pass this time. However it won't go away. It'll get used as a tool to reshape the mindset of America as a whole. Expect this type of bullshit to be ejected out of the House every month for the next two years. You ain't seen nothin' yet... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted November 15, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 8:31 PM, voyager9 said: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/7115/text?r=1 Check out this shit. oh. And this. Any part necessary to assemble a semi-auto “assault weapon”. Think about that. And it was submitted by Frank Pallone (D-NJ). So don’t think our lovely local legislature hasn’t already cut and pasted this for Smurphy to rubber stamp. like ammo, parts are already protected nothing to worry about here, already codified in law and sc review Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,433 Posted November 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, myhatinthering said: like ammo, parts are already protected nothing to worry about here, already codified in law and sc review Source? What case law establishes that? i don’t disagree that parts should be protected. But should and are are two different things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted November 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, voyager9 said: Source? What case law establishes that? i don’t disagree that parts should be protected. But should and are are two different things. you are going to have to find it, it's pretty well established and I think it was even cited recently when cali tried to ban online ammo sales. It's old, definitely not new Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 15, 2018 We obviously need to work on our onus of points/ facts here 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,433 Posted November 16, 2018 6 hours ago, myhatinthering said: you are going to have to find it, it's pretty well established and I think it was even cited recently when cali tried to ban online ammo sales. It's old, definitely not new That’s not how this works. You made a claim. Provide a source for that claim. Just saying “look it up” or “it’s well established” is a cop out and makes me think you’re guessing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimB1 554 Posted December 4, 2018 It’s even worse then that. They re-define assault weapons to include pretty much all semi auto rifles and handguns... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bt Doctur 188 Posted December 13, 2018 So now they want threaded barrels made illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,296 Posted December 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, Bt Doctur said: So now they want threaded barrels made illegal? Yes, to include barrels threaded at the chamber end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bt Doctur 188 Posted December 13, 2018 did you mean muzzle end? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,296 Posted December 13, 2018 No, I was (hopeful jokingly) referring to barrels threaded to screw into the receiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites