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Weather forecasters take Murphy out behind the woodshed for blaming them for the poor response by NJ DOT and snow removal.

@govmurphy much of NJ was in 2-4” forecast range for a burst of heavy snow right before rush hour then sleet on top. State should have been prepared anyways. Most NJ ended in 4-8” range.

Gary Szatkowski, the former head of the National Weather Service's Mount Holly office, said that although some of the snowfall numbers ended up greater than forecast, nearly every meteorologist said days before that the Thursday evening commute would be dangerous due to a combination of snow, sleet and freezing rain.

"So whether you got 8 inches of snow with a little sleet and freezing rain, or 4 inches of snow with a boatload of sleet/freezing rain, NJDOT planning would have produced the same result for NJ drivers,"  he wrote. "You were screwed.  And now they are trying to trick you."

https://www.app.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/11/16/snowstorm-nj-2018-phil-murphy-gives-storm-update/2022987002/

 

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7 hours ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said:


Rear wheel drive BMW, Mustang, etc in something like yesterday. Fuhgeddaboudit...

 

Most of the problem vehicles were Nissan altimas and Honda accords. I really didn’t encounter too many rwd vehicles other than the occasional lunatic in an f-150.

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On 11/16/2018 at 0:57 AM, PeteF said:

People just have no idea how to drive in snow.   

1. Stop on hill, get stuck.

2.  Leave traction control on while stuck, watch wheels spin as you go nowhere.

3. 4 wheel drives can do anything.  NOT.

Watched a jeep wrangler stuck at a intersection for 20 minutes.  As many 2wd cars drove past him.

Probably didn’t know how to shift into 4WD....sad that people don’t know how to do the most basic things anymore.

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There was definitely something else going on with snow removal for this storm,   At one of my work locations there was none of the usual hustle and bustle loading the salt spreaders and brine trucks nor was there any of the army of contracted plows and salt spreaders anywhere?

I know for a fact that these folks are overtime whores and wouldn't miss  an opportunity to make a little more money so where were they?   these folks also take great pride in keeping their respective areas of responsibilities clear and have contests as to what team does the best,   this is what makes me believe that their was political intervention.     can a map be produced as to where the worst roads were,   are they in the "RED" zones.   

 

Was an order handed down not to pay OT?    cut back on contractors?  I know that at least one contractor returned all the leased trucks due to problem with the state.

The current state of the nj infrastructure should be no secret to anyone here.  NJ transit is only in the limelight because of the direct interaction with the public,  EVERY piece of state owned infrastructure is well beyond its life expectancy,  DMV computer system, roads, computers everywhere .  

The bottom line going foward  is that these types of operations need to be removed from the hands of politicians and appointed department heads who all suffer from "budgetary cowardice" a disease where the sufferer believes that not spending money on necessary items will somehow make him look good only to later find out it didn't. 

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It wasn’t just NJ..Md and De were like this too. I suspect they were anticipating the temperature to stay a bit warmer, and the precipitation to turn to rain sooner than it did. 

Took me over 5 hours to get from Baltimore to Cherry Hill, which normally takes 2-ish hours. I didn’t see a plow or salt truck in Md until it was VERY apparent that it wasn’t changing over to rain when they expected it to. 

 

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Fortunately stayed home. Got like 3" of snow. Not enough to take snowmobiles out on the new property without tearing up the grass. Womp :/

Tell ya what though, my ass went and picked a tractor up right after that. No thanks to shoveling that crud. Thank god it all melted. Lol

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Diary of a snow shoveler, probable location - New Hampshire (but it could be the Poconos....)
 
December 8 - 6:00 PM

It started to snow.
The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat  for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven.
It looked like a Grandma Moses Print.
So romantic we felt like newlyweds again.
I love snow!
 
December 9
We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape.
What a fantastic sight!
Can there be a lovelier place in the whole world?
Moving here was the best idea I've ever had!
Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again.
I did both our driveway and the sidewalks.
This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again.
What a perfect life!
 
December 12
The sun has melted all our lovely snow.
Such a disappointment!
My neighbor tells me not to worry- we'll definitely have a white Christmas.
No snow on Christmas would be awful!
Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again
I don't think that's possible.
Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.
 
December 14
Snow, lovely snow! 8 inches last night.
The temperature dropped to -20.
The cold makes everything sparkle so.
The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks.
This is the life!
The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again.
I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way.
I wish l wouldn't huff and puff so.
 
December 15
20 inches forecast.
Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer.
Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels.
Stocked the freezer.
The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out.
I think that's silly.
We aren't in Alaska, after all.
 
December 16
Ice storm this morning.
Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt.
Hurt like hell.
The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.
 
December 17
Still way below freezing.
Roads are too icy to go anywhere.
Electricity was off for 5 hours.
I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm.
Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her.
Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her.
God I hate it when she's right.
I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.
 
December 20
Electricity's back on, but had another 14 inches of the damn stuff last night.
More shoveling!
Took all day.
The damn snowplow came by twice.
Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey.
I think they're lying.
Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and they're out.
Might have another shipment in March.
I think they're lying.
Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me.
I think he's lying.
 
December 22
Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white   shit fell today, and it's so cold, it probably won't melt till August.
Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to piss.
By the time I got undressed, pissed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel.
Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter, but he says he's too busy.  I think the asshole is lying.
 
December 23
Only 2 inches of snow today
And it warmed up to 0.
The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning.
What is she, nuts?!!
Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago?
She says she did but I think she's lying.
 
December 24
6 inches - Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel.
Thought I was having a heart attack.
If I ever catch the son of a bitch who drives that snow plow, I'll drag him through the snow by his balls and beat him to death with my broken shovel.
I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been!
Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.
 
December 25
Merry freaking Christmas!
20 more inches of the damn slop tonight -Snowed in.
The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil.
God, I hate the snow!
Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel.
The wife says I have a bad attitude.
I think she's an idiot.
If I have to watch "It's A Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.
 
December 26
Still snowed in.
Why the hell did I ever move here?
It was all HER idea.
She's really getting on my nerves.
 
December 27
Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze; plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me $1,400 to replace all my pipes.
 
December 28
Warmed up to above -20.
Still snowed in.
The BITCH is driving me crazy!!!
 
December 29
10 more inches.
Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in.
That's the silliest thing I ever heard.   How dumb does he think I am?
 
December 30
Roof caved in.
I beat up the snow plow driver, and now he is suing me for a million dollars, not only the beating I gave him, but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass.
The wife went home to her mother.
Nine more inches predicted.
 
December 31
I set fire to what's left of the house.
No more shoveling.
 
January 8
Feel so good.
I just love those little white pills they keep giving me.
Why am I tied to the bed?  

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