Sniper 6,372 Posted December 6, 2018 I told you guys the new Democrats coming into the House in January will be pulling out all the anti-2A stops. They're going to copy the law Murphy signed eliminating all face to face, private sales, this time nationwide. Democrats have promised an anti-Second Amendment agenda once they take over the House in January. Among the plethora of unconstitutional legislation, they will seek to push through is to criminalize private gun sales between individuals. Democrats will do this by advancing a bill that will require a background check for every single gun sale. Remember, these are the same people that cry “innocent until proven guilty” when they are accused of criminal activity, but they want you and me to prove our innocence and will assume we are guilty before purchasing a gun and exercising our God-given rights to keep and bear such arms, which they are supposed to protect. https://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/12/06/house-democrats-plan-to-criminalize-private-gun-sales/ To take such a hard line with no track record of legislative success could be a risky move, but gun control advocates point to the 2018 midterms as proof the political calculus on guns has shifted. A record 97 percent of people polled voiced support for universal background checks in the wake of the February shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, and many Democratic congressional candidates successfully flipped red seats while running on platforms calling for stricter gun regulations. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/house-democrats-gun-control-background-checks/ And lastly, the perfect example was this new mag law in our state. The judges could care less about the constitution, facts and truth.... It's ALL about emotion and politics... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted December 6, 2018 I expect them to pass all sorts of inane shit in the house with the knowledge they won't have to face the consequences of it passing in the senate. They don't want it to pass, they just want to craft bullet points for negative campaigning. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, raz-0 said: I expect them to pass all sorts of inane shit in the house with the knowledge they won't have to face the consequences of it passing in the senate. They don't want it to pass, they just want to craft bullet points for negative campaigning. So very true.. to a point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, raz-0 said: I expect them to pass all sorts of inane shit in the house with the knowledge they won't have to face the consequences of it passing in the senate. The Democrats don't think that way. They actually think they're passing meaningful legislation and doing God's work. They actually believe the crap they pass. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,848 Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sniper22 said: The Democrats don't think that way. They actually think they're passing meaningful legislation and doing God's work. They actually believe the crap they pass. That's because they're soooo much smarter than the rest of us, we can't possibly understand them. Just ask Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted December 6, 2018 Its amazing how many idiots and mathmatically challenged jackasses reside in this country. House passes a bill, senate rejects it, no law. House passes a bill, senate passes bill, president vetos, no law. They actually think having control of 1 house of legislature, means they can make any law they want. Maybe more than the crazy bitch from NY should be forced to watch Schoolhouse Rock. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, PeteF said: Its amazing how many idiots and mathmatically challenged jackasses reside in this country. House passes a bill, senate rejects it, no law. House passes a bill, senate passes bill, president vetos, no law. They actually think having control of 1 house of legislature, means they can make any law they want. Maybe more than the crazy bitch from NY should be forced to watch Schoolhouse Rock. It’s posturing but some would call it foreshadowing 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted December 6, 2018 Unlike the shit-ass situation locally, Democrats going wild at the federal level will just help P-Trump get re-elected in 2020. This way he can nominate more federal judges, which in our situation, is our only hope...Go House Democrats! Ban everything, investigate everything, you are doing great! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted December 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, PeteF said: House passes a bill, senate rejects it, no law. House passes a bill, senate passes bill, president vetos, no law. They actually think having control of 1 house of legislature, means they can make any law they want. We're going to have to watch really closely what happens. Dems pass a bill, the Establishment Repubs sign on, will there be enough Trump Repubs to keep it from passing the Senate? It might pass because "It's for the Children" (or they get another large mass shooting and get emotions to fly).. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred2 367 Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Sniper22 said: We're going to have to watch really closely what happens. Dems pass a bill, the Establishment Repubs sign on, will there be enough Trump Repubs to keep it from passing the Senate? It might pass because "It's for the Children" (or they get another large mass shooting and get emotions to fly).. They just need to keep in in their back pocket, to apply when there is another crisis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted December 6, 2018 55 minutes ago, PeteF said: Its amazing how many idiots and mathmatically challenged jackasses reside in this country. House passes a bill, senate rejects it, no law. House passes a bill, senate passes bill, president vetos, no law. They actually think having control of 1 house of legislature, means they can make any law they want. Maybe more than the crazy bitch from NY should be forced to watch Schoolhouse Rock. They are not crazy... this is the par for the course SOP for any politician, especially those in the minority. Every year Michael Patrick Carroll introduces pro 2A gun bills in NJ... he KNOWS they are not going to pass, but does so anyway to show to voters that he tries. Same for the Dems. The incoming class of Democrats needs to show to their constituents that "they tried." All of those bills were ready to go a long long time ago and get resubmitted every year. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted December 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, PeteF said: House passes a bill, senate rejects it, no law. Sounds like the National Reciprocity Law. Why didn't the current crop of Republican Senators pass it? It's been sitting collecting dust for a year.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 6, 2018 38 minutes ago, Sniper22 said: Sounds like the National Reciprocity Law. Why didn't the current crop of Republican Senators pass it? It's been sitting collecting dust for a year.... 60 or nuclear. But you know this I hope Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted December 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Zeke said: 60 or nuclear. Didn't ALL 100 Senators swear to uphold the Constitution at their swearing in ceremony? Shouldn't that give you 40 to spare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted December 7, 2018 13 hours ago, 45Doll said: That's because they're soooo much smarter than the rest of us, we can't possibly understand them. Just ask Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono. Very true. For a more 'local' example here on njgunforums; read the comments of our democrat-in-residence, AVB-AMG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
345Sire 158 Posted December 7, 2018 19 hours ago, Sniper22 said: The Democrats don't think that way. They actually think they're passing meaningful legislation and doing God's work. They actually believe the crap they pass. "They actually believe the crap they pass." Are you saying they believe in poop? Are you saying they are full of this same "poop"? I have to confess I agree with you on both counts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted December 7, 2018 4 hours ago, 345Sire said: "They actually believe the crap they pass." Are you saying they believe in poop? Are you saying they are full of this same "poop"? I have to confess I agree with you on both counts. Sadly, yes they are. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
345Sire 158 Posted December 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Sniper22 said: Sadly, yes they are. Maybe we ought to send them some Charmin, rather than the magazines! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
345Sire 158 Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 11:21 AM, Sniper22 said: I told you guys the new Democrats coming into the House in January will be pulling out all the anti-2A stops. They're going to copy the law Murphy signed eliminating all face to face, private sales, this time nationwide. Democrats have promised an anti-Second Amendment agenda once they take over the House in January. Among the plethora of unconstitutional legislation, they will seek to push through is to criminalize private gun sales between individuals. Democrats will do this by advancing a bill that will require a background check for every single gun sale. Remember, these are the same people that cry “innocent until proven guilty” when they are accused of criminal activity, but they want you and me to prove our innocence and will assume we are guilty before purchasing a gun and exercising our God-given rights to keep and bear such arms, which they are supposed to protect. https://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/12/06/house-democrats-plan-to-criminalize-private-gun-sales/ To take such a hard line with no track record of legislative success could be a risky move, but gun control advocates point to the 2018 midterms as proof the political calculus on guns has shifted. A record 97 percent of people polled voiced support for universal background checks in the wake of the February shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, and many Democratic congressional candidates successfully flipped red seats while running on platforms calling for stricter gun regulations. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/house-democrats-gun-control-background-checks/ And lastly, the perfect example was this new mag law in our state. The judges could care less about the constitution, facts and truth.... It's ALL about emotion and politics... If I were to don Johnny Carson's hat of predictions I'd venture that there will be people who disregard this "between legal owners transactions" restriction. (quotes my own paraphrasing) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 4:34 PM, PeteF said: Its amazing how many idiots and mathmatically challenged jackasses reside in this country. House passes a bill, senate rejects it, no law. House passes a bill, senate passes bill, president vetos, no law. They actually think having control of 1 house of legislature, means they can make any law they want. Maybe more than the crazy bitch from NY should be forced to watch Schoolhouse Rock. you think trump wouldn't sign this? i dont think it'll pass the senate, but i have my doubts of a presidential veto. especially if pushed after the "next parkland" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted December 19, 2018 https://nypost.com/2018/02/26/its-really-gone-nowhere-peter-king-doubtful-gun-bill-will-pass/ Like in the past with other gun control measures , some GOP members will support it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myhatinthering 462 Posted December 22, 2018 GOPers that support it need to go, period!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 472 Posted January 11, 2019 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/10/five-republicans-join-democrat-push-criminalize-private-gun-sales/ says republican Chris Smith from NJ suppoprts this shit. time to start calling him and tell him hes done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, revenger said: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/10/five-republicans-join-democrat-push-criminalize-private-gun-sales/ From the article: ..."The push to criminalize private gun sales is being presented as a universal background check requirement. Such checks would require Americans to get government permission to sell a gun to a neighbor, a life-long friend, or a co-worker. NPR reports that Rep. King said, “When background checks are used, they keep guns out of the hands of people we all agree shouldn’t have guns.” King did not mention that Gabby Giffords’ attacker passed a background check for his gun, as did the November October 1, 2017, Las Vegas gunman, the June 12, 2016, Orlando Pulse gunman, the October 1, 2015, Umpqua Community College gunman, the May 23, 2014, Santa Barbara gunman, the July 20, 2012, Aurora movie theater gunman, and the November 5, 2009, Ft. Hood gunman, to name a few." Somehow, these idiot politician still haven't figured it out, it's not the background checks that are the problem.......... or the inanimate object (the gun)...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites