Howard 538 Posted February 15, 2019 Just had on the Lame Stream ABC evening news and they are talking about the shooting in IL today talking about the military assault style baby killing laser sights the gunman had on his weapon. Sure the anti fool will now want to ban lasers on guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldguysrule649 397 Posted February 16, 2019 Howard, I was watching the news coverage earlier on Fox when the news broke that the gunman’s handgun had a “green laser”. Had exactly the same thought as you. Watch the ignorant anti-2A idiots start calling for bans on green lasers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted February 16, 2019 well, they have to blame something.... and there was no rifle to blame this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted February 16, 2019 What happened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Screwball 483 Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, carl_g said: What happened? Witnesses reporting a pistol with laser sight being used by the gunman... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted February 16, 2019 It's the top headline at CNN right now. Shooter in deadly Illinois rampage had a gun with a laser sight, witness says Martin opened fire with a Smith & Wesson handgun at the Henry Pratt Co. in the Chicago suburb of the Aurora, shooting at terrified employees before engaging in the gunbattle with responding officers. Martin was being let go Friday from his job at the company, police said. They did not give more details about why he was losing his job or whether he'd been notified before the shooting. 'He was just shooting everybody' An employee who survived the shooting, told CNN affiliate WLS that the gunman was a coworker. He was "running down the aisle" with a pistol that had a green laser sight on it, John Probst said. "As soon as I saw the green thing and heard the shots, we left," said Probst, who's worked at the plant for 40 years. "He started opening up on the room, and he was just shooting everybody." They mention Smith and Wesson, so we'll see if S&W rolls over and stops selling the gun the shooter used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,127 Posted February 16, 2019 As soon as I saw your heading, I knew where you were going with it. I hadn't made the connection, but I had heard about the green laser, and should have realized that there would be a push to ban deadly laser sights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted February 16, 2019 from listening to the press conference it sounds like it might have been another one of those background check failures. have to wait and see it again to confirm but apparently he had a felony conviction from 2104 so much for the nics check Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted February 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, revenger said: apparently he had a felony conviction from 2104 so much for the nics check I guess Universal Background Checks now involve Special Relatively in order to figure this out? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regular Guy 264 Posted February 16, 2019 Dems in this state love to ban scary gun accessories, but they also make pretty irrational decisions. After the Parkland school shooting took place (where the shooter used 10 rd magazines), our state decided we should have 10 round magazines too. Maybe they will look at this and mandate we all get green lasers? Never under-estimate the power of the stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JMich3 152 Posted February 16, 2019 They probably only ban semi automatic attack / assault lasers. If your sharks have lasers on their heads they are grandfathered in. SMH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, revenger said: from listening to the press conference it sounds like it might have been another one of those background check failures. have to wait and see it again to confirm but apparently he had a felony conviction from 2104 so much for the nics check It gets even better, and I bet they'll find a way to penalize us for the failures of local LEOs and the court system. AURORA, Ill. — An angry worker who opened fire inside a suburban Chicago factory where he had worked for years was barred from having the handgun he was carrying, officials said on Saturday. Gary Martin, 45, who died in an exchange of fire with the police after a rampage on Friday that left five co-workers dead and at least six other people wounded, had already had his state weapons permit revoked because of a felony assault conviction from years earlier, the police in Aurora, Ill., said. Still, they said, his gun was never taken away. “Some disgruntled person walked in and had access to a firearm that he shouldn’t have had access to,” said Kristen L. Ziman, the chief of police in Aurora, where the shooting took place. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/us/aurora-illinois-shooting.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chic013 16 Posted February 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Sniper said: It gets even better, and I bet they'll find a way to penalize us for the failures of local LEOs and the court system. AURORA, Ill. — An angry worker who opened fire inside a suburban Chicago factory where he had worked for years was barred from having the handgun he was carrying, officials said on Saturday. Gary Martin, 45, who died in an exchange of fire with the police after a rampage on Friday that left five co-workers dead and at least six other people wounded, had already had his state weapons permit revoked because of a felony assault conviction from years earlier, the police in Aurora, Ill., said. Still, they said, his gun was never taken away. “Some disgruntled person walked in and had access to a firearm that he shouldn’t have had access to,” said Kristen L. Ziman, the chief of police in Aurora, where the shooting took place. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/us/aurora-illinois-shooting.html Always seems to be the knee-jerk reaction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenday 323 Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Sniper said: It gets even better, and I bet they'll find a way to penalize us for the failures of local LEOs and the court system. AURORA, Ill. — An angry worker who opened fire inside a suburban Chicago factory where he had worked for years was barred from having the handgun he was carrying, officials said on Saturday. Gary Martin, 45, who died in an exchange of fire with the police after a rampage on Friday that left five co-workers dead and at least six other people wounded, had already had his state weapons permit revoked because of a felony assault conviction from years earlier, the police in Aurora, Ill., said. Still, they said, his gun was never taken away. “Some disgruntled person walked in and had access to a firearm that he shouldn’t have had access to,” said Kristen L. Ziman, the chief of police in Aurora, where the shooting took place. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/16/us/aurora-illinois-shooting.html From what I've read, he bought his handgun, then applied for a CCP a few days later which is when police found out he had been arrested multiple times with felonies. So...how did he pass the check when he got his handgun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted February 16, 2019 https://youtu.be/xDlL7pXZjjs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 16, 2019 So the state rejected his CCW application when they ran his prints and he came up as a felon from Mississippi, revoked his FOID but never moved to take his recently purchased M&P 40 away. Next of kin of the murdered should sue the State of Illinois for that shit. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenday 323 Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, njJoniGuy said: So the state rejected his CCW application when they ran his prints and he came up as a felon from Mississippi, revoked his FOID but never moved to take his recently purchased M&P 40 away. Next of kin of the murdered should sue the State of Illinois for that shit. It seems to be a re-occurring theme yet instead of those groups being held responsible, responsible gun owners just get punished. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted February 17, 2019 That's your Democrat controlled state in all it's finest. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 17, 2019 Because everyone is agenda driven doesn’t actually work through the problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted February 18, 2019 Good point Howard. You can see where they will run with this and how some republican senators will go along with it. Its an idiotic claim to make...that a laser should be illegal, but its more than likely coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted February 18, 2019 Is it time yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 6:53 PM, njJoniGuy said: So the state rejected his CCW application when they ran his prints and he came up as a felon from Mississippi, revoked his FOID but never moved to take his recently purchased M&P 40 away. Next of kin of the murdered should sue the State of Illinois for that shit. then we'll all cry "confiscation". my issue.....why didn't NICS pick this up in the first place?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted February 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: then we'll all cry "confiscation". my issue.....why didn't NICS pick this up in the first place?? because NICS is a fucking joke? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 18, 2019 Last I read more than 1/2 of states are not 100% in compliance with nics. Even the Air Force isn’t. It’s only as good as the data it has been given. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 6:53 PM, njJoniGuy said: Next of kin of the murdered should sue the State of Illinois for that shit. I'm sure they will. I wonder if lawyers realize how much work they'll lose if things continue down this common sense gun law route? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Zeke said: Last I read more than 1/2 of states are not 100% in compliance with nics. Even the Air Force isn’t. It’s only as good as the data it has been given. All this stuff involving "control" can no longer be handled on a state by state basis. Just like the voter system, "mother" computers need to be set up. Communication would have stopped a lot of this. I wonder why it is that they can work a multi-state lottery flawlessly and not anything else? Oh yeah money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted February 18, 2019 bad idea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted February 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: bad idea What is? The Mother computer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites