BobTheBuilder 0 Posted February 21, 2019 Hello all, I finally got my permit to purchase a handgun from the NJSP. I went in to my local gun dealer and picked a handgun to purchase. After all the paperwork at the counter, the salesperson then tells me that I have to be approved for purchase and that it might take a day or two. Is that a normal thing to happen? Who exactly has to approve my purchase? The state? They just took 4 months to aprove me just to approve me again 2 days after approving me. Any ideas? Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted February 22, 2019 Welcome to New Jersey! You must go through a NICS background check at the time of sale. It's to make sure you did no evil, illegal things from the time you got the permit up to the time of the sale. NICS can take minutes or hours depending on how busy they are. 2 days is excessive! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted February 22, 2019 NICS is a federal requirement. NJ is a POC state, meaning the NJSP administer the system and the FBI database is accessed by them rather than directly by the FFL. Welcome to the world of gun ownership. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobTheBuilder 0 Posted February 22, 2019 Thank you! And got it. They mentioned that the delay might be because I'm not a citizen, but still. I bought it on Tuesday so hopefully I'll be approved tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 22, 2019 @remixer can chime in here but I believe, there was a delay between the holiday and the weather? Generally NICS takes a few mins but at times can take a few days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted February 22, 2019 yes currently running about 2 hours Delay caused by Closure Monday and Weds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, BobTheBuilder said: Thank you! And got it. They mentioned that the delay might be because I'm not a citizen, but still. I bought it on Tuesday so hopefully I'll be approved tomorrow. Wednesday was a state of emergency. No nics in joisey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted February 22, 2019 The were backed up from monday when weds hit. Nics is not faster for Law enforcement . They do the same background check civilians do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobTheBuilder 0 Posted February 22, 2019 They probably should rename it to something else than "instant check". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, BobTheBuilder said: They probably should rename it to something else than "instant check". Generally it is though. And this is why you develop a relationship with a vendor who can let you know ahead of time or work with you not to waste your time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobTheBuilder 0 Posted February 22, 2019 So to my understanding, usually I could just walk in to the gun dealer and walk out with one the same day? Or they are usually backed up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, BobTheBuilder said: So to my understanding, usually I could just walk in to the gun dealer and walk out with one the same day? Or they are usually backed up? Yes, usually walk in and done within an hour. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, BobTheBuilder said: They probably should rename it to something else than "instant check". Its Instantish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,129 Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, remixer said: Its Instantish Sorta like the 30 day requirement for the PD to issue Firearm Purchaser ID cards and Pistol Purchase Permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted February 22, 2019 On a positive note, I'v been receiving nics approvals since 6:15am this morning. I have no Nics checks waiting... They might be on time for a short while today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted March 25, 2019 Let’s be honest the NJ system is unsurprisingly shitty. You are calling the NJSP so they can call the FBI and get the approval. Most other states go directly to the FBI and it is instant. Thanks to another governor Whitman eff up NJ is saddled with a crap system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted March 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Rob0115 said: Let’s be honest the NJ system is unsurprisingly shitty. You are calling the NJSP so they can call the FBI and get the approval. Most other states go directly to the FBI and it is instant. Thanks to another governor Whitman eff up NJ is saddled with a crap system. We're not alone with this system. In fact PA is also a POC state, which is why there they call it "PICS". There are 13 POC states total. Not advocating or supporting this system, simply pointing out that NJ was not the originator, nor the only state that has to live with it. Adios, Pizza Bob 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted March 25, 2019 36 minutes ago, Pizza Bob said: We're no alone with this system. In fact PA is also a POC state, which is why there they call it "PICS". There are 13 POC states total. Not advocating or supporting this system, simply pointing out that NJ was not the originator, nor the only state that has to live with it. Adios, Pizza Bob NJ was given money for NICS modernization and spent it on other things during the CTW administration. The system, here and in the other 13 states, adds no value and only delays my rights. I really do get your point but I don’t take consolation in other places sucking too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites