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March 25 - NJ finally up in smoke?

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9 hours ago, Handyman said:

Did you know that there is an online complaint form for the Board of Medical Examiners that anyone with an axe to grind can fill out?

https://www.nj.gov/lps/ca2/bme/complaintform/complaints.htm

When this gets dropped in you get to take a day off work, drive to Trenton  and get sworn in to explain what happened. Is there a similar form where people can complain about a chemist?

When my customer has a complain, they just email or call my boss directly. A lot easier than that form.

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57 minutes ago, SW9racer said:

Just about all companies have anti drug policies, and many have random drug testing. So will these policies now be illegal?  

If NJ followes other states that have legalized employers still have the right to drug test and fire someone or not higher someone because they failed for pot. 

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14 hours ago, Greenday said:

When my customer has a complain, they just email or call my boss directly. A lot easier than that form.

That's good. I'm sure it happens a lot.

Do you require a license to practice your profession? A license that a regulatory agency can attack and potentially take away and can force you to pay a lawyer tens of thousands of dollars to defend? And will the loss of that license also effectively prevent you from ever being licensed in any other state, thereby depriving you of your livelihood?

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29 minutes ago, Handyman said:

Do you require a license to practice your profession? 

A CDL and a pilot certificate are but two I can think of.   Federally issued, and under federal law, pot use is illegal.

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Question 11e on the 4473 specifically states that use of marijuana is a disqualifier under Federal law for firearms ownership.  Being just about all firearms transfers have to go through a FFL in NJ.  If you want to use marijuana no guns for you as it stands.

This has been brought up before.

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3 hours ago, GRIZ said:

Question 11e on the 4473 specifically states that use of marijuana is a disqualifier under Federal law for firearms ownership.  Being just about all firearms transfers have to go through a FFL in NJ.  If you want to use marijuana no guns for you as it stands.

This has been brought up before.

Sounds like they'd have to change a lot of laws and policies to no longer include marijuana.

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3 hours ago, Greenday said:

Sounds like they'd have to change a lot of laws and policies to no longer include marijuana.

It isn't going to happen until the fed reclassifies it from something other than a schedule 1 drug. That form Griz is referring to is a federal form.

6 hours ago, GRIZ said:

Question 11e on the 4473 specifically states that use of marijuana is a disqualifier under Federal law for firearms ownership.  Being just about all firearms transfers have to go through a FFL in NJ.  If you want to use marijuana no guns for you as it stands.

This has been brought up before.

I totally agree but how is "use" defined?

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18 hours ago, GRIZ said:

Question 11e on the 4473 specifically states that use of marijuana is a disqualifier under Federal law for firearms ownership.  Being just about all firearms transfers have to go through a FFL in NJ.  If you want to use marijuana no guns for you as it stands.

No more “new” guns for you, you mean. 

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Honestly, I have friends who partake pretty regularly and though I don't personally, I'm neutral about it. My BIG concern all along has been the potential impact on car accidents. As far as I know, we would be (by far) the most populated state - with the most densely packed roadways - to legalize recreational use. Exactly what number of additional injured/killed commuters is "acceptable"? To me, that's always been the looming question.

I have to say though, now that I'm reading some of the details, I have other growing doubts, too. Wow... this proposal is really sweeping: 

  • they're going to expunge former marijuana possession charges >> despite the fact that the people would have KNOWN it was illegal at the time, they'll just re-write history. What msg does that send?
  • they're talking about delivery services to your house... and Amsterdam-style consumption lounges for those folks who live in apartments that might disallow smoking pot  >> seriously? decriminalizing or even legalizing is one thing, but I'm starting to feel like NJ will be serving up drugs to our fellow citizens "on a silver platter". Is Murphy a state Governor, or a de facto drug dealer? It feels a bit "over the top".
  • they're setting aside 15% of the licenses for African American business people, purportedly to make up for the fact that the black community was so hard-hit by marijuana possession arrests, etc. >> OK, it's probably a misguided attempt at leveling the playing field... I get that. In reality though, will this just ensure usage in poor minority neighborhoods that already struggle with a higher level of substance abuse? How will that help those communities?  By keeping them broke and self-medicating?

I don't know... this is starting to remind me of Atlantic City, when you see those down on their luck people cashing their disability check so they can keep playing the slots! Are we just encouraging a self-medicating, slacker society?... in exchange for the lure of tax dollars that are unlikely to materialize as promised? I'm for legalizing medicinal pot - I personally think the science is there to support it - but I'm leaning away from legalizing recreational use. It seems like it's likely to create more problems than solutions.

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16 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said:

 

  • they're talking about delivery services to your house... and Amsterdam-style consumption lounges for those folks who live in apartments that might disallow smoking pot  >> seriously? decriminalizing or even legalizing is one thing, but I'm starting to feel like NJ will be serving up drugs to our fellow citizens "on a silver platter". Is Murphy a state Governor, or a de facto drug dealer? It feels a bit "over the top".

Didn’t you know Brave New World was an instruction manual?  They’ve only ready the first half, though. 

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