silverado427 10,552 Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, sota said: Oh goody, let's stir up another religion/race war. I was getting bored. Cowboys and muslims. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted March 15, 2019 This is like 10,000 miles away. Nothing to do with America, Trump, NRA or anything else in this hemisphere. The guy was a nutter, that's all. If NZ really thinks Trump is to blame, they should declare war on the US. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 15, 2019 https://we.tl/t-uuR5Zkxt7N manifesto and full(?) ~17min video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 Ok i cant watch anymore.. Listening to these people who support an ideology that is responsible for terrorists attacks all over the world and directly targeting women and children while casting stones at Us is sickening... Fuck these people. Lets be honest. 49 Dead in the middle east by muslim terrorists would be a slow day. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, sota said: https://we.tl/t-uuR5Zkxt7N manifesto and full(?) ~17min video. I wont watch that video.... Horrible attack... no need to see it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 15, 2019 I'm not advocating anyone watch it, but consider, having your own copy of it, and the manifesto, when the powers that be decide to lie as they will, provides you with the means to refute them. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, remixer said: I wont watch that video.... Horrible attack... no need to see it. Amazing, people are becoming numb to evil. I will not watch it either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 15, 2019 I'm quoting someone else external to this board... the manifesto and the video, despite their abhorrence, are a valuable forensic resource that needs to be considered as a template for what we can expect to see in the future as I suspect that this guy is not the last of his kind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 Someone said his manifesto praised China or some other communist leader. I dont plan on reading his manifesto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted March 15, 2019 that was fucking brutal to watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, sota said: I'm not advocating anyone watch it, but consider, having your own copy of it, and the manifesto, when the powers that be decide to lie as they will, provides you with the means to refute them. The video and manifesto is being scrubbed as fast as it's being reposted all over. Why are the TPTB trying to suppress free speech? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 From what im hearing about it... He's an Eco Fascist, Happy conservatism is dead. Pro workers Party..... Almost sounds like Antifa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Zeke said: Second attack was staved by... a good guy with a gun. Wait, we can't be having any of that. It goes against the narrative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 15, 2019 I saw this letter by a NZ Senator, at first I thought it was fake. WaPo and Fox have referenced it, so it appears to be legit. It really spells out the issue with immigration: 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 857 Posted March 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sniper said: The video and manifesto is being scrubbed as fast as it's being reposted all over. Why are the TPTB trying to suppress free speech? I can understand the desire to not show the video. The victims families haven't even begun to grieve, so I can't imagine how they'd feel seeing their loved ones assassinated every time they turn on the TV or log on to the internet. As for the manifesto, I can again understand the desire to suppress it and not spread the views of the fucktard shooter across the globe. That said, the slippery slope with that thinking is that politicians. media, etc, can then make up whatever they want about the shooter and there's no way to refute it. "The shooter said he was a personal friend of Donal Trump and was acting as his agent" That becomes the truth if there's no evidence otherwise... 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sniper said: I saw this letter by a NZ Senator, at first I thought it was fake. WaPo and Fox have referenced it, so it appears to be legit. It really spells out the issue with immigration: Oh thats gonna get some attention. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 857 Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sniper said: I saw this letter by a NZ Senator, at first I thought it was fake. WaPo and Fox have referenced it, so it appears to be legit. It really spells out the issue with immigration: Holy shit. He'd be crucified if he was a US senator and made a statement like that. Hard to believe that's legit. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said: Holy shit. He'd be crucified if he was a US senator and made a statement like that. Hard to believe that's legit. In the UK he would be arrested for those words regardless if they are true or not. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted March 15, 2019 they're doing their damndest to paint this as right wing.......they're politicizing the shit out of it already. even rob pincus is saying right wing extremist.....even though everything that's being said about this guy sounds kinda fascist/leftist to me. i could be wrong though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted March 15, 2019 Political strife and finger-pointing is *exactly* what this madman wanted. Don’t feed into it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted March 15, 2019 @124gr9mmEXACTLY! @1LtCAPhence my desire to spread the data far and wide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted March 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, sota said: @124gr9mmEXACTLY! @1LtCAPhence my desire to spread the data far and wide. oh i downloaded both the video and the manifesto. they'll give insight into what was broken inside this douche to make him do this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: oh i downloaded both the video and the manifesto. they'll give insight into what was broken inside this douche to make him do this. Please share your perspective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, remixer said: Please share your perspective. i will after i watch it with the volume up. i'm at work, so obviously couldn't watch with sound.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 15, 2019 It's also interesting on how the gunman, in his manifesto, touched on the battle here with the 2A and the agenda by the Left to remove guns. Our 2A fight is being picked up and seen in other countries, where they see it's an issue. Here is a snip from Karl's site, he posted a lot longer opinion of the shooting: ...." Then there's the other nasty truth that was demonstrated last night. The shooter's manifesto proclaimed that part of his intent was to foment a civil war over the 2nd Amendment here in the United States. You can bet the left will seize on this shooting and further his agenda. You can also bet that the citizens of this nation are too ****ing stupid to realize the obvious, although if you find and watch the livestream of him mowing down people in that mosque (yeah, I've seen it) what will be instantly obvious is that had just one of the attendees had a pistol and hid around a corner he could have nailed that son-of-a-bitch right in the head and put a stop to that crap. But.... you see..... there is no 2nd Amendment in New Zealand and everyone inside the mosque was unarmed. " http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=235319 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, remixer said: From what im hearing about it... He's an Eco Fascist, Happy conservatism is dead. Pro workers Party..... Almost sounds like Antifa. A quote of his: "Yes. For once, the person that will be called a fascist, is an actual fascist. I am sure the journalists will love that. I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley's views and consider myself Eco-fascist by nature. The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People's Republic of China." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 235 Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Sniper said: I saw this letter by a NZ Senator, at first I thought it was fake. WaPo and Fox have referenced it, so it appears to be legit. It really spells out the issue with immigration: Rush was reading this as well on the radio today. The video was sadly what I expected, as he was clearly wanting to drive his point home, although shooting a shotgun through his car windshield seemed peciliar. To go back in a sscond time was brazen, not to mention shooting outside the mosk, but at that point I guess he didnt care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, 1LtCAP said: even rob pincus is saying right wing extremists. Never quote him, he sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted March 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: Never quote him, he sucks. i dunno. i've never met the guy. i've heard both....he's good, and.....he sucks. only thing i know is that i was gonna take a class with him, but he wouldn't allow serpa holsters....which is what i use.....so i pretty much said fuck him, and took that same training with someone that was willing to teach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,552 Posted March 15, 2019 What firearms did the killer use in the attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites