CageFighter 236 Posted May 29, 2019 how about an oval shaped or round ball like ammo? im sure accuracy would go up due to lack of tumble? anyway.....I just saw this and want one now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anactivegrenade 25 Posted June 16, 2019 I posted this in another thread, but it looks like the option WITH barrel rifling might be good-to-go soon, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Zeke said: @Ray Ray What Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted June 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: What It’s all the same subject Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted June 17, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 11:41 AM, vladtepes said: and using a laser "instead of" a WML.. that is a really weird choice.. LOL.. you’ll never win that debate with this guy just ask @Zeke or @High Exposure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,052 Posted January 7, 2020 ATF issued a letter specifically that Franklin Armory Reformation can not be transferred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, capt14k said: ATF issued a letter specifically that Franklin Armory Reformation can not be transferred. Did anyone really buy this? If so - They are going to have the dealer have to buy it back, and then the dealer has to deal with the ATF on classification for resale...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted January 8, 2020 Crazy situation. Wonder if this can happen with the non-firearm short barrel AR's that are being sold now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,708 Posted January 8, 2020 20 hours ago, JT Custom Guns said: Did anyone really buy this? If so - They are going to have the dealer have to buy it back, and then the dealer has to deal with the ATF on classification for resale...... What is the seller want's more than they paid for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 8, 2020 12 hours ago, 124gr9mm said: Crazy situation. Wonder if this can happen with the non-firearm short barrel AR's that are being sold now... of course it can. i'm curious whether the atf or any "authorities" are contacting the ffl's who have sold these, and "urging" them to get them back....or if anyone's going right to the end users? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, silverado427 said: What is the seller want's more than they paid for it. I would assume the seller can ask, but also assume the dealer would explain that IF they didn't turn it back to the dealer for amount originally paid, the dealer would tell the ATF they did not reclaim the weapon. In that case the ATF will come knocking at your door and take it - then you get nothing.......... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 8, 2020 WELL THAT is somewhat disturbing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: WELL THAT is somewhat disturbing. Well john, we all know if the ATF says you can't / shouldn't have it - somebody is gonna come get it......... And has anyone noticed that Franklin Armory started this thread to sell guns, and now has disappeared? Not to be found...................... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted January 8, 2020 19 hours ago, 124gr9mm said: Crazy situation. Wonder if this can happen with the non-firearm short barrel AR's that are being sold now... Most of these loopholes are one shitty administration away from closing up. On the other hand..... I do feel the non-NFA firearms are immune from prosecution. Hell the ATF provided you all the litigation you need to prove they are legal. While they could create a cluster fk of sorts with selling and transferring them, maybe even forced recalls.. I doubt they would have the legal justification to do so.. In this case, "upon further inspection of the law" they found that while these were not NFA regulated, they justified it under the gun control act. However, this too is not prosecutable.. because the franklin "firearm" doesn't shoot shotgun shells and is technically not smoothbore, even if the lands/grooves run straight. IMO, this was a low hanging fruit for the ATF because it has as stock on it.. going after one company who doesn't have all the resources or will to fight the classification. How many of these things did they really even sell? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites