1LtCAP 4,262 Posted May 14, 2019 my blue line flags are finally fading enough that i'm gonna order a couple new ones. but...…….when I take the faded ones down to retire them, do I retire them the same as old glory? that's what it feels like I should do, but i'm not sure...…. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted May 14, 2019 No. Trash can. Only the us flag has a ceremonious burning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted May 14, 2019 If it's stars and stripes, call the BSA to retire the flag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted May 14, 2019 it is. it's this one. i have one flying on my staff at home, and one i put out during the daytime at the shop. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019S6E4KI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted May 14, 2019 Still represents our country. I use to bring them to the AL where they had a mailbox for a flag drop box. I never would just toss a flag in the trash! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted May 14, 2019 I must have failed civics because that doesn't look like any official US flag I've ever seen. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, bhunted said: Still represents our country. I use to bring them to the AL where they had a mailbox for a flag drop box. I never would just toss a flag in the trash! I agree with that based on the symbolism, so I would suggest contact the Boy Scouts or the A.L. to see who can handle the correct disposal. 1 hour ago, WP22 said: I must have failed civics because that doesn't look like any official US flag I've ever seen. What makes it "official"? Can you only buy a US flag in D.C. at the White House store? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted May 14, 2019 Well red white and blue for a start 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted May 14, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States Click under specifications. Do you see any blue stripes there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 14, 2019 Ill just throw this out here... If your blue Line flag represents the US flag to you then treat it as such... if it does not then dont. I do not think there is an official way to handle these flags. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Golf battery said: Well red white and blue for a start Like all these? 1 hour ago, WP22 said: Click under specifications. OK, here they are: ..." These specifications are contained in an executive order which, strictly speaking, governs only flags made for or by the U.S. federal government.[67] In practice, most U.S. national flags available for sale to the public have a different width-to-height ratio; " ..." As with the design, the official colors are only officially required for flags produced for the U.S. federal government, and other colors are often used for mass-market flags, printed reproductions, and other products intended to evoke flag colors. " Doesn't sound like there's a "official" specification for public use, does it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brisco 130 Posted May 14, 2019 Most Elks clubs have a flag drop for proper disposal. https://www.elks.org/lodges/default.cfm?StateCode=NJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted May 14, 2019 This is the OFFICIAL subdued US flag worn by US troops. It is clearly NOT red white and blue, but somehow, it's an official flag. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted May 14, 2019 Yeah. Its a patch. Not a flag. Try to put that on a flag pole The boy scouts burn the flags at a ceremony to retire them. Maybe ask the boy scouts what an official flag is. Executive order 10834 of 1959 clearly explains the flag colors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted May 14, 2019 I'm a former Boy Scout Charter Organization Representative (C.O.R.) with almost 20 years in & around the scouting program. Our Troop would accept ANY flag that has THE stars & stripes on it for proper retirement & burial. And YES, that includes "Blue Line" US Flags! The Elks actually publish the complete written set of rules covering flag etiquette. Published long ago, they're not "up-to-speed" with "Blue Line" US Flags with the stars & stripes, as no mention currently exists. Yes, it's a personal decision AT THIS TIME. But everyone here ask yourselves a question: Does the Blue Line flag symbolize everything good about this country, AND recognize the fallen who have died on the line for us? If you answer in the affirmative, IT'S A FLAG and needs to be retired with DIGNITY the same as every other! STOP picking at nits & just DO THE RIGHT THING and SET AN EXAMPLE for our youth! Rosey Sacred Heart Church Troop #95 Charter Organization Representative (C.O.R.) Central Jersey Scout Council (now Monmouth Council) P.S.: Flag Day is June 14th. OBR&PC is collecting flags to be retired. Retirement Ceremony to take place at: Old Bridge American Legion Post 177 17 Emerson Street, East Brunswick, NJ 08816 In years past, the .22 Youth League at Old Bridge R&P would collect un-serviceable flags and transport them to their retirement HERE. After a somber ceremony and a dousing by East Brunswick Fire Co., the ashes were later buried off-site. Then all in attendance were invited to stay for burgers & dogs courtesy of the Post. I know all of this because MY SON & I WERE THERE! I could make a call or two and find out if they're having it this year...just give the word! 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 14, 2019 https://images.app.goo.gl/RqKxUXvy3KWv59Fb7 How about these? Will the Boy scouts or American Legion burn these too? 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 14, 2019 Dammit.. You beat me to it LOL It comes down to Official Flag or Variants.. Personally i think Old glory has no other in comparison and should be handled as such. Officially But as i stated... your flag... You decide. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 14, 2019 I like this one and can stand on its own Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Scorpio64 said: This is the OFFICIAL subdued US flag worn by US troops. It is clearly NOT red white and blue, but somehow, it's an official flag. A swing and a bad miss. Again, if it makes ya'll feel good to call that piece of cloth a US flag, ya'll go ahead but we all know it ain't. It's a flag, just not a US flag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted May 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, WP22 said: It's a flag, just not a US flag. If it's not a US flag, what flag is it then? Is it the flag of Russia? Nooooo Is it the flag of Peru? noooooooo. Is it a black panther flag? noooooo Is it a Nazi flag? nooooooo... You agree that it is, in fact, a flag, but not a US flag. Since you are the apparent SME here, what flag is it then? Are our troops wearing a flag that does not represent the USA? OMG, I'm going to write a letter to the DoD post haste and give them what for. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted May 15, 2019 Dude it's obvious I was referring to the flag with a blue stripe. The thing you posted is a patch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted May 15, 2019 Whats sme? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Golf battery said: Whats sme? It's a Bell Labs thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted May 15, 2019 Sm expert Ok. Sm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted May 15, 2019 Subject Matter Expert 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 15, 2019 Did the Op get his question answered Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, remixer said: Did the Op get his question answered Yes, and no. Maybe. Wait.... what was the question again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said: Yes, and no. Maybe. Wait.... what was the question again? lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 15, 2019 If it isn't a legit stars and stripes flag then it isn't an official flag. It is art. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, remixer said: Did the Op get his question answered i think so. i was leaning towards checking with the boyscout troop up the street from my house(literally 300 yards away), then read roseys reply. now i am going to ask them, based on :::::: But everyone here ask yourselves a question: Does the Blue Line flag symbolize everything good about this country, AND recognize the fallen who have died on the line for us? If you answer in the affirmative, IT'S A FLAG and needs to be retired with DIGNITY the same as every other :::::::::::: because that's why i fly it alongside the stars n stripes. i don't fly it 'cause i think it's pretty, but for a reason. so i guess it needs to be retired properly. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites