Sam J 0 Posted May 24, 2019 New member here. Long time shooter with some basic to intermediate training in the past. I'm decent at the fundamentals but I want to take my skills up to the next level. I am trying to decide on a course. I've looked into the following and would love to get feedback from what you have experienced, particularly how they stack up against each other in terms of the skills you come away with. I'm not into IDPA/USPSA and I'm certainly not Rambo minded. I'm just looking to come away with very solid handgun skills from a good teacher without spending $5k: Gun for Hire (Urban 1, 2, & 3) S & T (Handgun 1 & 2) Tactical Training Center (Handgun 150 through 450) - This is the most convenient for me Vicker's Tactical (2 Day Handgun) Thank you very much for your feedback. Feel free to PM me if there is something you don't want to post publicly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted May 24, 2019 Of those, I highly recommend S&T. Joe Riedy gives an excellent class that is close to home, it is affordable and a required a reasonable round count. I’m 90% sure I will be at Pistol II on 6/15. I try to take a couple of classes a year from Joe. It’s a great tune up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted May 28, 2019 Sam J, here's what I know: GFH: I've taken all their classes multiple times. They are about 15 minutes from me, so quite convenient. Their instructors are knowledgeable and good guys. They present solid training info in manageable blocks of time. They can be slightly pricier than some other places, but IMHO they are well worth it. S&T: I've trained with Joe only once. He seemed pretty good. He brings a strong background in LE, and his prices are reasonable for a full day class. TTC: Scott and his crew are good. I've taken two or three classes with them. As much as I like short training blocks, their classes are only two hours each, as they work around the range schedule. That makes it challenging for me, because I have an hour drive to get there. If I were closer, I would train with them a lot more. I've never trained with Vickers, but I've been up to Sig Sauer Academy a few times, and would highly recommend them. If you would like further info, feel free to contact me, either here or by pm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam J 0 Posted May 28, 2019 Thanks for the great info. I really appreciate it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony13 59 Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 10:03 AM, High Exposure said: Of those, I highly recommend S&T. Joe Riedy gives an excellent class that is close to home, it is affordable and a required a reasonable round count. I’m 90% sure I will be at Pistol II on 6/15. I try to take a couple of classes a year from Joe. It’s a great tune up Where is he doing his training at? His website states Steel City Gun Club but according to they’re website it’s permanently closed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony13 said: Where is he doing his training at? His website states Steel City Gun Club but according to they’re website it’s permanently closed. It’s not closed. It’s 1/2 mile from Easton Fish&Game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony13 59 Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, BullzeyeNJ said: It’s not closed. It’s 1/2 mile from Easton Fish&Game. What town would that be? Did they move? The one listed in Bethlehem says permanently closed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Tony13 said: What town would that be? Did they move? The one listed in Bethlehem says permanently closed. That would be Bethlehem. The website is wrong. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted May 28, 2019 Yeah. Every class I have ever had with Joe was at the Steel City Range but I always thought that was Hellertown. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted May 29, 2019 I took Joe's Pistol 1 class a few weeks ago. Good class and I plan on taking it again. Ill be taking his Carbine 1 class again this weekend at Steel City Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BullzeyeNJ 104 Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 7:28 PM, High Exposure said: Yeah. Every class I have ever had with Joe was at the Steel City Range but I always thought that was Hellertown. Its on the border. When I took a carbine class with Joe there was a Bethlehem LEO in the class. I asked him what town the range was in and he said Bethlehem. The range is actually owned by the Bethlehem PD and they do all their quals there. They hardly use it much so they allow civilians to use it for classes and shoot there on limited membership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacewalker 9 Posted May 31, 2019 Also interested in this. newbie here got my FID a year ago and have the holy trinity (AR-15, handgun, pump shotgun) and really want to make sure I have my basics down correct. Only "problem" is I am up in North jersey so I only know of Gun For Hire. I did pay for a shotgun basics class there but I really felt I learned the same amount as watching youtube videos. Any recommendations for classes closer to North NJ or at the farthest central (nothing south of Trenton)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 857 Posted May 31, 2019 10 hours ago, peacewalker said: Also interested in this. newbie here got my FID a year ago and have the holy trinity (AR-15, handgun, pump shotgun) and really want to make sure I have my basics down correct. Only "problem" is I am up in North jersey so I only know of Gun For Hire. I did pay for a shotgun basics class there but I really felt I learned the same amount as watching youtube videos. Any recommendations for classes closer to North NJ or at the farthest central (nothing south of Trenton)? GFH has some really good instructors and really good programs. When I first started shooting I watched a lot of videos, did a lot of dry-fire, and went to the range a lot, but I wasn't sure which pistol course to take. I needed to have an "NRA Basic Pistol" certificate to join a range, so I called GFH and asked if they could do that. They didn't have that specific class scheduled, but they were super flexible and offered to have one of their instructors take me through the requirements as a private lesson. Best decision ever. For the same price as one of the classes I was able to get the Pistol Basics certificate and have a one on one session with one of their fantastic instructors. Not sure what classes they currently offer, but if you give them a call and tell them what you're interested in achieving I'm sure they would hook you up. In the mean time, watch videos, do a LOT of dry firing, and shoot a lot. I think this is a good (but long) video that covers a lot of basics: 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacewalker 9 Posted July 9, 2019 Thanks 124gr9mm, I could definitely use a good pistol course so I will see what they can do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 889 Posted November 9, 2019 interesting, did not know about this place. checking it out now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites