Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 I know it’s all personal preference but what would be some suggestions on a first handgun to a new gun owner..ps I am still waiting on my FID and handgun permit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0Jeep4 87 Posted June 14, 2019 I’d give the other members here a price range on what you’re willing to spend to help narrow it down. I’d recommend a full size 9mm handgun. M&P9, H&K VP9, Glock17. I’d also recommend hitting a local gun shop/ range that has a decent inventory and handle the guns and shoot them before you put down money and your p2p purchasing one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,874 Posted June 14, 2019 I can go with those three, and I'd add a Walther PPQ in 9mm to the list. For the M&P in 9mm make sure it's a 2.0 version. That would be four major, solid 9mm pistols to consider. After you handle them at a FFL find a range where you can rent them and shoot them. It will be money well spent. Your preference will be yours to discover. Then start saving your money. The odds are you won't be satisfied with just one. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 I appreciate it I have been to the range a few times with friends and I like the m&p 9 2.0, I haven’t had a chance to shoot a H&K vp9 or the glock 17 but I did shoot a glock 19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, 45Doll said: I can go with those three, and I'd add a Walther PPQ in 9mm to the list. For the M&P in 9mm make sure it's a 2.0 version. That would be four major, solid 9mm pistols to consider. After you handle them at a FFL find a range where you can rent them and shoot them. It will be money well spent. Your preference will be yours to discover. Then start saving your money. The odds are you won't be satisfied with just one. I have to shoot a Walther ppq my boss has one and says he loves it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pasu0115 200 Posted June 14, 2019 I would think a full size 9mm semi auto or a .357 magnum revolver is a good choice for a first handgun. In full size 9mm, there are S&W, Beretta, HK, Sig, Glock, CZ, Walther, and others in polymer, aluminum, and steel frames, and various trigger types. In a .357 Magnum revolver, you have S&W, Ruger, a few Colts and some others. In a .357 Magnum, .38 Special ammunition can be shot for lighter recoil. Visit some stores, hold some guns, see what feels good. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, pasu0115 said: I would think a full size 9mm semi auto or a .357 magnum revolver is a good choice for a first handgun. In full size 9mm, there are S&W, Beretta, HK, Sig, Glock, CZ, Walther, and others in polymer, aluminum, and steel frames, and various trigger types. In a .357 Magnum revolver, you have S&W, Ruger, a few Colts and some others. In a .357 Magnum, .38 Special ammunition can be shot for lighter recoil. Visit some stores, hold some guns, see what feels good. I have heard a lot of good things about the CZ pistols but haven’t had a chance to rent one at the range yet and thanks for the info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,874 Posted June 14, 2019 Between the VP9, PPQ and M&P I don't think there's a 'wrong' choice. Just your preference. I differentiate the Glock (Gen 4) solely on the basis of the trigger. It's not as good as the other three, at least not for me. But it's a workhorse, always goes bang (not saying the other three don't) and I can break down the entire pistol in three minutes with one punch. So that pistol is on my bug out or SHTF lists. Plus parts are all over the place. Haven't shot a CZ, but have read many favorable reviews and posts. Good luck. The hunt is half the fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, 45Doll said: Between the VP9, PPQ and M&P I don't think there's a 'wrong' choice. Just your preference. I differentiate the Glock (Gen 4) solely on the basis of the trigger. It's not as good as the other three, at least not for me. But it's a workhorse, always goes bang (not saying the other three don't) and I can break down the entire pistol in three minutes with one punch. So that pistol is on my bug out or SHTF lists. Plus parts are all over the place. Haven't shot a CZ, but have read many favorable reviews and posts. Good luck. The hunt is half the fun. I appreciate your input Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted June 14, 2019 What do you want? Rent borrow as many different as you can. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zeke said: What do you want? Rent borrow as many different as you can. I’m leaning towards the M&p 2.0 but I’m open to trying different guns until my FID and permit comes in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0Jeep4 87 Posted June 14, 2019 I have an m&p9 not the 2.0, it was my favorite until I got my hands on a H&K VP9 now that has become my favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, 0Jeep4 said: I have an m&p9 not the 2.0, it was my favorite until I got my hands on a H&K VP9 now that has become my favorite. The H&K vp9 is it a full size or compact Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,874 Posted June 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Von973 said: I’m leaning towards the M&p 2.0 but I’m open to trying different guns until my FID and permit comes in Then I have to add my experience. I own and shoot the other three. Then I bought a full size M&P 9. The first time I shot it I lit up the target. I was surprised. Happily. So I don't think you'd be disappointed. But I'm keeping all the others. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,874 Posted June 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, 0Jeep4 said: I have an m&p9 not the 2.0, it was my favorite until I got my hands on a H&K VP9 now that has become my favorite. I still favor the VP9. The trigger suits me well, and on tac nights I really like the H&K lever mag release. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0Jeep4 87 Posted June 14, 2019 VP9 is the full sized model I believe the vp9sk is there smaller version. You can’t really go wrong like the others have stated, it really comes down to personal preferences and how well you shoot each one basically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Regular Guy 264 Posted June 14, 2019 Is this going to be something for range use only? Home defense? Are you consider competitions such as IDPA, USPSA, Steel Challenge Matches, etc? Do you have any formal training with firearms? All things to be considered. I know you said you are new to handgun ownership, but not sure if are new to guns or gun use in general. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted June 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Von973 said: I’m leaning towards the M&p 2.0 but I’m open to trying different guns until my FID and permit comes in If you're leaning that way then go with it. It's a good firearm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0Jeep4 87 Posted June 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, 45Doll said: I still favor the VP9. The trigger suits me well, and on tac nights I really like the H&K lever mag release. I love the mag release, but it always messes me up real good switching guns after shooting it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, 0Jeep4 said: VP9 is the full sized model I believe the vp9sk is there smaller version. You can’t really go wrong like the others have stated, it really comes down to personal preferences and how well you shoot each one basically. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matroskin 29 Posted June 14, 2019 I would vote against VP9, I have it but the mags are expensive and maintenance is complex. glock if it fits your hand but m&p checks all the boxes. also CZ p10 c is a good option with trigger out of box better than glock and m&p. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Regular Guy said: Is this going to be something for range use only? Home defense? Are you consider competitions such as IDPA, USPSA, Steel Challenge Matches, etc? Do you have any formal training with firearms? All things to be considered. I know you said you are new to handgun ownership, but not sure if are new to guns or gun use in general. Yes a super newbie lol but it will be the range and possibly home defense. I do not have any training but I plan on getting as much training as possible. I've been shooting a few times but I’m new to guns and gun use. 1 minute ago, Matroskin said: I would vote against VP9, I have it but the mags are expensive and maintenance is complex. glock if it fits your hand but m&p checks all the boxes. also CZ p10 c is a good option with trigger out of box better than glock and m&p. Thanks for the input Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Von973 said: I’m leaning towards the M&p 2.0 but I’m open to trying different guns until my FID and permit comes in Do it. try a Sig 320 first though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Von973 said: I appreciate it I have been to the range a few times with friends and I like the m&p 9 2.0, I haven’t had a chance to shoot a H&K vp9 or the glock 17 but I did shoot a glock 19 If you shot a Glock 19 you pretty much have a good idea what a Glock 17 is like. Going to the range with friends and trying their guns is a good idea. IMO the Glock 19 is the best all around 9mm made. Spend some time figuring out what else you want to try before you go renting guns. You can easily can spend more than your gun is going to cost on rentals. Keep in mind that you will spend thousands more than the original price of your gun on ammo. Taking that into account for a centerfire handgun a 9mm in a semiauto or 38/357 in a revolver makes sense. I've always been of the opinion that a double action revolver is a good handgun to start with. It takes a bit more to learn the DA pull but when you master a DA revolver everything else is easy. JMO. Getting some instruction is important. You can take formal classes or learn from an experienced shooter. Doing this early will save you a lot of time and ammunition. It will also help you prevent developing bad habits that will be difficult to break. I know many good shooters who were self taught. They will never be great shooters because of the bad habits they developed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Von973 0 Posted June 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, GRIZ said: If you shot a Glock 19 you pretty much have a good idea what a Glock 17 is like. Going to the range with friends and trying their guns is a good idea. IMO the Glock 19 is the best all around 9mm made. Spend some time figuring out what else you want to try before you go renting guns. You can easily can spend more than your gun is going to cost on rentals. Keep in mind that you will spend thousands more than the original price of your gun on ammo. Taking that into account for a centerfire handgun a 9mm in a semiauto or 38/357 in a revolver makes sense. I've always been of the opinion that a double action revolver is a good handgun to start with. It takes a bit more to learn the DA pull but when you master a DA revolver everything else is easy. JMO. Getting some instruction is important. You can take formal classes or learn from an experienced shooter. Doing this early will save you a lot of time and ammunition. It will also help you prevent developing bad habits that will be difficult to break. I know many good shooters who were self taught. They will never be great shooters because of the bad habits they developed. Thanks for the info 22 minutes ago, Zeke said: Do it. try a Sig 320 first though Will do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted June 14, 2019 Obviously this topic has been discussed a lot on forums, youtube, print and social media, at gunshops and wherever. But my answer always is the same. A 4 inch 357 is an excellent option. It is capable of doing everything you need. They are reliable, cost effective and last forever. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Locker50 2 Posted June 14, 2019 It's a personal decision only you can make. But, you should check out a CZ 75 SP-01. Awesome pistol. Beware though. Once you own and shoot a CZ, it won't be long till you buy all of their different models. So start your CZ slush fund now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,139 Posted June 14, 2019 Do yourself a favor and try to get some trigger time with a CZ before you make a decision . CZ-75 or CZ-SP01 for a full size or CZ-P01 for midsized handgun. Try as many guns as possible. And as Ray Ray said, don't exclude revolvers. Revolvers are simple to operate, understand and clean. And with a 357 you can also shoot the much softer shooting 38s through it. Revolvers are great first time handguns. Good luck and enjoy trying as many as possible. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted June 14, 2019 G19 S&W 686 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,296 Posted June 14, 2019 I'm a big proponent of starting with a .22, maybe a Ruger Mk IV, Browning Buckmark, or S&W Victory. Try before you buy if at all possible, but at least handle them. Nothing teaches the basics of marksmanship like a .22. Then plan to follow it up with a centerfire purchase, and there are some good recommendations for those in the thread above. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites