BobA 1,235 Posted August 9, 2019 I have an M&W shield .45. (2.0) It's always preformed great. I had it out and suddenly it wouldn't fire. you could hear the hammer by the clicking but not even a dimple or scratch on the round. I replaced the firing pin as I heard these sometime have issues with them. I went out today and just a click. Anyone ever hear of this or experience it? I couldn't tell you how many rounds are through it. I shoot the hell out of my guns and 1000rds wouldn't surprise me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJG 253 Posted August 9, 2019 Sounds like a bad striker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted August 9, 2019 Call Smith... I'm sure they will take care of you. 1,000 rounds is not a lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Maksim said: Call Smith... I'm sure they will take care of you. 1,000 rounds is not a lot. If they recommend sending it in, do I have to do the FFL-P2P shuffle or can we just ship to each other? But honestly I don't mind working on it if the answer is out there. It's almost therapeutic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, SJG said: Sounds like a bad striker The striker came with the new firing pin I installed all in one as a package. It was (or claimed to be) OEM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted August 10, 2019 Drop safety/ striker block ? Mag disconnect? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Zeke said: Drop safety/ striker block ? Mag disconnect? Mag disconnect? As in the mag is not secure? Because you can rack them trough all day. It feeds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted August 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, BobA said: Mag disconnect? As in the mag is not secure? Because you can rack them trough all day. It feeds. No I’m saying does it have a mag disconnect. I’m not familiar with the shield. There are a couple of safeties built in that could have failed. Sumtin is keeping the pin from striking the primer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted August 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Zeke said: No I’m saying does it have a mag disconnect. I’m not familiar with the shield. There are a couple of safeties built in that could have failed. Sumtin is keeping the pin from striking the primer No, no mag disconnect safety, unless OP got a CA model. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted August 11, 2019 Isn’t there a side spring for the firing-pin-trigger-block? There is that metal loop that needs to pop to one side so it depresses the plunger. You can open up and crush that loop depending on the timing. Check the Apex site for adjusting their trigger, it’s the same bar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 150 Posted August 11, 2019 If the trigger bar timing is off the bar could theoretically be releasing the sear without having the striker block out of the way. Do you feel the break of the sear when you’re pulling the trigger? @SW9racer I thought the loop was removed from the trigger bar in the 2.0 models (I.e. no more adjustments) but maybe I’m wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Shocker said: If the trigger bar timing is off the bar could theoretically be releasing the sear without having the striker block out of the way. Do you feel the break of the sear when you’re pulling the trigger? @SW9racer I thought the loop was removed from the trigger bar in the 2.0 models (I.e. no more adjustments) but maybe I’m wrong I do feel it. But looking at the slide from the bottom, The pin seems to be a little off center. It seems to not allow full travel of the pin for about 1/32. I know there's a sleeve for the pin to travel and I'm wondering if it's worn to not allow the proper travel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 150 Posted August 11, 2019 The “pin” is the striker leg? Or the striker block? The white sleeve is supposed to stick out a little bit at the front of the striker leg slot, that’s how you release the back plate. But I’m probably not understanding your “off center” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Shocker said: The “pin” is the striker leg? Or the striker block? The white sleeve is supposed to stick out a little bit at the front of the striker leg slot, that’s how you release the back plate. But I’m probably not understanding your “off center” Yes it’s difficult. I’ll try to upload a picture tonight when I get home. The “sleeve” I mentioned isn’t the rear part holding the back plate. It’s a lining for the assembly. I’ll get some pics up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 14, 2019 @shocker notinotice how the striker leg is off to the center? BTW I call S&W today. They refused to give me any insight and offered to fix it if I shipped it to them. All was going good until he heard I was not the original owner. The lead time then turned to possibly 8 months maybe more. I'd sooner by a new one. Just now, BobA said: @shocker notice how the striker leg is off to the center? BTW I call S&W today. They refused to give me any insight and offered to fix it if I shipped it to them. All was going good until he heard I was not the original owner. The lead time then turned to possibly 8 months maybe more. I'd sooner by a new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted August 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, BobA said: @shocker notinotice how the striker leg is off to the center? BTW I call S&W today. They refused to give me any insight and offered to fix it if I shipped it to them. All was going good until he heard I was not the original owner. The lead time then turned to possibly 8 months maybe more. I'd sooner by a new one. Ya sumtin don’t look right there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 150 Posted August 15, 2019 I can’t really tell much from that pic...if you poke the striker block down with your finger can you move the striker forward enough to see the pin come out the breech face? that white sleeve might be in wrong...would be an easy fix in person but Im on vacay what happened in between working and not working? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Zeke said: Ya sumtin don’t look right there That entire striker pin assembly slides out along with that white plastic you see there. But it slides in through a plastic tube. I fear that tube might be it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJG 253 Posted August 15, 2019 If it is anything like a glock, you should be able to remove the entire striker and the tube and make sure the channel is clear and that that the tube is not blocked. If there is a spring on the striker, like in a glock, replace the spring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shocker said: I can’t really tell much from that pic...if you poke the striker block down with your finger can you move the striker forward enough to see the pin come out the breech face? that white sleeve might be in wrong...would be an easy fix in person but Im on vacay what happened in between working and not working? Yes the pin rears it’s head of I depress it. The pin assembly is one big happy piece it only goes in one way Nothing happened between work/no work just shooting along and click. well if you have time went you’re back I’ll make it two bottles this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 150 Posted August 15, 2019 I’m just going off memory but I thought the little shoulder lump at the top of the striker leg should be INSIDE the sleeve i.e if you look at the assembly from the back with the leg at 12 o’clock that half-sleeve should be rotated counterclockwise let me google that... edit: see here...the sleeve is up against/touching the leg on the right side...but I don’t know if that’s a 1.0, 2.0 or whatever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 Yup. But that made me notice the spring is inside of that plastic collar. I wonder if it should only butt up to it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 150 Posted August 15, 2019 The plastic at the front end looks right, that’s what captures the spring. To get that off you retract the spring and the collar slides off sideways once it’s uncovered ...which you’ll probably have to do, in order to reorient that back section. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 Ta-da! We got Stright. Now I have to wait for the neighbors to go to bed and go down the basement to see if it works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted August 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, BobA said: Ta-da! We got Stright. Now I have to wait for the neighbors to go to bed and go down the basement to see if it works. That looks better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Zeke said: That looks better Fingers crossed. If it works I think I’ll get a new assembly from S&W. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted August 15, 2019 Take a piece of tape and put it over a snap cap or a spent casing and see if ya get a primer strike 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zeke said: Take a piece of tape and put it over a snap cap or a spent casing and see if ya get a primer strike Ok. Standby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 Looks promising. Nice trick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted August 15, 2019 Nope. This morning was a no fire. I’m guessing the tape was placed over an already made dimple on a spent primer. So the pin came out just enough to penetrate the tape but it doesn’t strike far enough or hard enough to excite the primer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites