mikey_golds 14 Posted August 17, 2019 Hey guys, I am pretty annoyed, my girl got me a handgun for my birthday a SW 22 Victory, and I was going to pick it up this morning. I get to the FFL and basically we can't go any further since we realized the detective didn't write the issued date on the permit. I get home of course Permits isn't open on weekends. And look at the other 5 since I put in for 6 at once but when the Gov Murphy price increase was floating around and it looks like he dated one of them. He dated it 5/16/19 which is the date I got the e-mail saying they are ready for pickup please come at your convenience. I actually picked them up June 26th. (work, masters degree, getting to a place that is open till 4 PM on weeknights is a pain) So my first question is what date is SUPPOSED to go in that box, obviously when I go back to Permits I am going to say I think they should be the current date in the box since they made the mistake to not populate originally. And if they must backdate I think the 26th should of been used since that is when they were issued TO ME. If they force May 16th I basically have to get them all extended since 90 days was Aug 14th... Overall a frustrating situation. Any advice? or Knowledge around this would be appreciated. MG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 17, 2019 The date they are issued is what counts and the clock starts ticking. The PD will probably enter the issue date on the permits. The fact that it took you time to pick them up is on you not them. I've never had an issue getting permits extended. IIRC it is up to the chief if he or she wants to extend the permit or not. I've never heard of someone not having their permit extended but I'm sure it's happened. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikey_golds 14 Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, GRIZ said: The date they are issued is what counts and the clock starts ticking. I guess semantics on the Issued vs Issued to Me. Either way they still forgot to write the date in 5 out 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted August 17, 2019 Not semantics - The “Issued date” is when the Chief approves your application in FARS, signs the paper permit, and you are notified that your permits/ID card is ready. There is no “issued to you” date - it is simply up to you to come and pick it up. The fact that it took you 6 extra weeks to come pick it up after being notified it is ready is not the Department or the Chief’s fault. That’s on you - Own it. Yeah, I get it, you are busy - everyone is busy. Again, that’s on you, not the PD. As for entering the date - mistakes happen. That is why you are supposed to review the forms for accuracy when you pick them up. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted August 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, mikey_golds said: I guess semantics on the Issued vs Issued to Me. Either way they still forgot to write the date in 5 out 6 Again, no semantics. Sometimes the chief may sign them late on a Friday and the records clerk doesn't get them back until Monday or Tuesday to notify me. My permits might be issued 4 or 5 days before I get notified to pick them up. I don't wait 6 weeks to do so. I understand they forgot to put in the date. You should have caught that when you picked them up. Mistakes are made by everyone. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikey_golds 14 Posted August 17, 2019 Absolutely agree with both you and Griz, I should of reviewed I just grabbed the folder they had ready for me and was in a hurry. However I did look back at a prior batch of handgun permits I got from Feb 2019, I got the voicemail saying my permits were approved and ready for pickup on Feb 4th, I picked them up Feb 14th, (how do i remember it was valentines day and I heard it for not coming straight home after work). I looked at both of the copies I retained from purchases, what date are they dated... Feb 14th 37 minutes ago, High Exposure said: As for entering the date - mistakes happen. That is why you are supposed to review the forms for accuracy when you pick them up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikey_golds 14 Posted August 17, 2019 Either way not a big deal. Lesson learned to review them, Ill swing by there get them extended and post dated and go from there.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted August 18, 2019 8 hours ago, mikey_golds said: Absolutely agree with both you and Griz, I should of reviewed I just grabbed the folder they had ready for me and was in a hurry. However I did look back at a prior batch of handgun permits I got from Feb 2019, I got the voicemail saying my permits were approved and ready for pickup on Feb 4th, I picked them up Feb 14th, (how do i remember it was valentines day and I heard it for not coming straight home after work). I looked at both of the copies I retained from purchases, what date are they dated... Feb 14th Weird... what town is it? Grabbed folder and went? Don't they review them with you? In my town, when I lived in the socialist republic, the detective would always go over the permits with me to verify my info and to make sure the clerks in the office did not leave anything off and then I would sign them on the spot in front of him. As others above here mentioned, @GRIZ @High Exposure Don't wait around to pick up permits... get them as soon as you get the call they are ready. Time is wasting as soon as they are signed and as such, with OGAM, you are generally wasting one of the permits unless you go through exemption. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikey_golds 14 Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 12:47 AM, Maksim said: As others above here mentioned, @GRIZ @High Exposure Don't wait around to pick up permits... get them as soon as you get the call they are ready. Wanted to followup on this. Went back to my police station they called NJSP and were told use discretion for the date. She asked if I remember the day I picked them up if not they would put today’s date. I told her I did and that’s when they were dated. Picked up my birthday gift. And all ends well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, mikey_golds said: Wanted to followup on this. Went back to my police station they called NJSP and were told use discretion for the date. She asked if I remember the day I picked them up if not they would put today’s date. I told her I did and that’s when they were dated. Picked up my birthday gift. And all ends well. awesome, glad it ended well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites