PK90 3,570 Posted September 6, 2019 @Displaced Texan Quote Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says he will defy NRA, take lead on gun background checks. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says he's "willing to take an arrow" and defy the National Rifle Association by pressing Texas to close one loophole in gun-purchaser background checks. LINK Texas just turned a little bluer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted September 7, 2019 Why don't they just open up NICS to everyone? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, JackDaWack said: Why don't they just open up NICS to everyone? The coburn proposal from 2013. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 9:57 AM, JackDaWack said: Why don't they just open up NICS to everyone? That seems like it makes sense. At the option of the seller, do a free NICS check online. You either get a code saying its good. Or a message saying a code can’t be issued for the person at this time. I don’t get why Patrick isn’t trying to get something in return beyond what he believes is a temporary reprieve on letting more of Texas or DC going blue. If he thinks thats a win....he needs to think harder. Make gun free zones illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted September 9, 2019 57 minutes ago, Kevin125 said: That seems like it makes sense. At the option of the seller, do a free NICS check online. You either get a code saying its good. Or a message saying a code can’t be issued for the person at this time. That’s basically what was proposed back in 2013. Buyer uses a public NICS portal to initiate a background check. They get notified if/when it passes and is given a token. Seller uses that token at the portal to verify prospective buyer passes. Transaction completes. Seller does not have access to buyers PI. No info on the firearm is passed or even if the sale commenced seller gets piece of mind that buyer was not prohibited what’s not to like? oh, right. It’s not a registry and it’s not a burden or PITA so the Democrats killed it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted September 10, 2019 21 hours ago, voyager9 said: That’s basically what was proposed back in 2013. Buyer uses a public NICS portal to initiate a background check. They get notified if/when it passes and is given a token. Seller uses that token at the portal to verify prospective buyer passes. Transaction completes. Seller does not have access to buyers PI. No info on the firearm is passed or even if the sale commenced seller gets piece of mind that buyer was not prohibited what’s not to like? oh, right. It’s not a registry and it’s not a burden or PITA so the Democrats killed it. Sounds like a good idea if you are selling to someone you don’t know, or know well. If the dems refused to vote for something like this, it will be even more evidence that they don’t care about “violence” like they say. They just want our guns. They will want a federal record. But should someone let them know they don’t have one now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted September 10, 2019 to be honest, there's probably a way to do this fairly easily withOUT registration. as others have said, opening nics to everyone would probably accomplish this. but...the facts are that this would not have prevented 90% of the shit they're saying it would have prevented. so.....no. no more fucking compromise with these back-stabbing cock gobblers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted September 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: to be honest, there's probably a way to do this fairly easily withOUT registration. as others have said, opening nics to everyone would probably accomplish this. but...the facts are that this would not have prevented 90% of the shit they're saying it would have prevented. so.....no. no more fucking compromise with these back-stabbing cock gobblers. True. Though part of me would like to see the Republicans submit it again and get the Democrats on record and call them out for voting it down. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobA 1,235 Posted September 10, 2019 Poor Governor Beaver will lose his $13.00 per. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted September 10, 2019 16 hours ago, 1LtCAP said: to be honest, there's probably a way to do this fairly easily withOUT registration. Sure it could, but realistically, without registration, a person can sell their firearm without going through NICS, to someone's who may use it in a crime and they wouldn't know how that person got the gun. With registration, they can trace it back to the seller and then charge the seller for an "illegal" sale. I'm not saying I agree with registration, just that I don't think they'd go along with this without registration. They'd kill 2 birds with 1 stone in that they'd have registration so when an asshat dem gets into office and orders mandatory "buyback", they know what everyone, who registered, has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites