Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted September 19, 2019 Yes, Tomahawk does have non HE payloads, including cluster bomblets for destroying runways, for example. This damages doesn’t look like that. I would expect more damage to surrounding areas with that type of payload. Could be a shaped charge, maybe. I’m skeptical. It appears to me from the pics above this is a relatively clean punch hole (or two) in the tanks. I can tell you it wasn’t an HE warhead, that’s for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted September 19, 2019 13 hours ago, pjd832 said: That’s an interesting thought, here’s an idea maybe we should fight fire with fire ......let’s open Democrat/Iran/ collusion ....treason or whatever investigations and tie up all the Democratic candidates and politicians with subpoenas and such like they did and maybe if they’re tied up with that we can get some campaign promises and other things done .....lmao Heck, 0bama already clearly colluded with them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Displaced Texan said: I can’t see the damage being from a cruise missile equipped with high explosives. I’ve seen what a Tomahawk and a Harpoon does to a target, this looks nothing like the damage they do. If it IS a cruise missile, it didn’t detonate, or wasn’t loaded with HE. Those pictures look like something punched a hole in the tank and didn’t explode. Is it possible we're expecting a similar explosion that one of our Tomahawks would do yet they have something less powerful? I don't know about their weapon systems, but is it possible for them to have "mini" Tomahawks or something else small that doesn't have the punch like ours? Or, maybe they have cruise missiles that have simple, small explosives on them, or even dummy loads, so they don't totally wipe out the target like ours do. Maybe they forgot to arm the warhead before they launched, so all it did was punch a hole in the tank? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucin 923 Posted September 20, 2019 Perhaps their missiles can't carry that heavy a pay;load over that great a distance so they reduced the explosive payload in order for the missile to reach the target. It would appear their guidance systems are working properly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, brucin said: Perhaps their missiles can't carry that heavy a pay;load over that great a distance so they reduced the explosive payload in order for the missile to reach the target. Their cruise missiles can carry a 1,000 Lb payload 2500Km. I think Iran conducted the strike with reduced payload to send a message that they can hit them harder with the same pin point accuracy. The amount of force and destruction was carefully calculated so as to not require a massive response that would lead to all out war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin125 4,772 Posted September 20, 2019 The photo of the device the Saudi’s posted doesn’t look anything like I would call a cruise missile. Referring to a 20 ft long, 3000 lb Tomahawk. It looks to be about 5 or 6 feet long and I’d guess it weighs 500 lbs. Saudi’s said this device has a range of 435 miles. Sniper posted that above I think. So it may technically be a “cruise missile” based on its method of delivery to a target. But it doesn’t look like something that could level a small building. And sure as hell didn’t cost $1.9 mill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted September 20, 2019 12 hours ago, brucin said: Perhaps their missiles can't carry that heavy a pay;load over that great a distance so they reduced the explosive payload in order for the missile to reach the target. It would appear their guidance systems are working properly. I just saw a report on Bloomberg where they cut out a damaged section of one of the storage tanks. The hole was big enough to drive a car in, but it looked like it just punched the hole and no explosives were in the warhead. Sounds like either Iran was sending a warning or they can't get reliable warheads to travel that far, and these are just "ramming" missiles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Sniper said: I just saw a report on Bloomberg where they cut out a damaged section of one of the storage tanks. The hole was big enough to drive a car in, but it looked like it just punched the hole and no explosives were in the warhead. Sounds like either Iran was sending a warning or they can't get reliable warheads to travel that far, and these are just "ramming" missiles? I don't think they intended to do long term damage. They wanted to demonstrate viable disruption of the supply chain in order to make people listen to them. I don't think it will work out the way they like long term, but for now they can say "see, we WILL be taken seriously on the world stage!" to the people at home. Heck, it could be entirely for the people back in Iran. Maybe they are getting rowdy and this is a way of saying you will listen to us or we will be at war on our whim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Sniper said: Sounds like either Iran was sending a warning or they can't get reliable warheads to travel that far, and these are just "ramming" missiles? Interesting. Maybe someone should send a rammer through the Iranian parliament building. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted September 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Handyman said: Interesting. Maybe someone should send a rammer through the Iranian parliament building. Now that's a ventilation solution I'd be happy to see on NSA satellite footage! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted September 21, 2019 Secretary Pompeo Verified account @SecPompeo 7h7 hours ago The U.S. has sanctioned Iran’s Central Bank and National Development Fund, both of which finance the regime’s terrorism. Attacking other nations and disrupting the global economy has a price. The regime must be held accountable through diplomatic isolation and economic pressure. ---------------------------------------- I think we're going to have some pissed of Iranians...This would be comparable to turning off our Federal Reserve, or turning off the oxygen to a patient in Intensive Care... Tick tock.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted September 22, 2019 This appears to be a display of might from Iran showing accuracy capabilities. Our nation has thrived on being able to put quidded arsenal in windows this may be there way of displaying there ability to do the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites