Maksim 1,504 Posted April 28, 2009 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/48333 I know the handguns are crummy, but what about the carbine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 28, 2009 No first hand experiece, but anyone who seems to own one loves them. For the money I would pick one up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted April 28, 2009 I just visited a guy this weekend that has one. He said, despite Hp's reputation as a cheap gun maker, he liked the gun, it was fun to shoot. BTW, this guy had the largest private citizen collection I have ever seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted May 2, 2009 I have one in 9mm for 4 years. I paid about $100 less (dealer's price) at the time. They are ugly, look and feel cheap but run 100% with factory mags. Stay away from the aftermarket 15 rd mags. I never got one to run more than 2 rds without feeding problems. Mine shoots about 5" groups at 100 yds with any ammo I've tried. I shoot only a couple hundred rounds a year through it. It is a pain to field strip and I usually clean the bore and wipe out the big chunks after shooting. Clean it totally about once a year but it has never malfunctioned. For the price everyone ought to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooligan John 0 Posted May 11, 2009 I have one. 995b. Lots of fun to shoot. No jamming with over 1000rds through it. A little bit of a pain to take it down. For $189 (Cabelas) it was worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borisny 0 Posted May 11, 2009 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/48333 I know the handguns are crummy, but what about the carbine? Had one for a while. Very cheap and ugly design. Replaced stock with ATI, felt much better. Fun and cheap to shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotshot 4 Posted May 14, 2009 have one in 9mm.....very ugly and a bit awkward until i changed the stock with an ati stock....big improvement....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted May 14, 2009 Saw one at BA yesterday for $269. Omg, talk about ugly. But hey, if it works, it works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 15, 2009 have one in 9mm.....very ugly and a bit awkward until i changed the stock with an ati stock....big improvement....... I thought about getting one of these but decided on saving up a little more money (500 dollars more!) and go with the Beretta Cx4 instead. Many 9mm rounds and lots of cool tactical upgrades later I haven't looked back. Go with quality and skip this crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites