PK90 3,569 Posted April 30, 2009 I made this up awhile back. Hope it helps anyone looking to purchase or sell a firearm. 1. Handgun purchases by....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a P2P and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a P2P with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = must be transferred through NJ dealer - Refer 1A(1) ........(4) Out-of-state resident = must be transferred through NJ dealer - Refer 1A(1) ....B. Out-of-state resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = must be transferred through buyer's home state dealer ........(2) NJ resident = must be transferred through buyer's home state dealer 2. Long gun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(4) Out-of-state resident = must be transferred through ............a. NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID or ............b. Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ....B. Non-resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = must be transferred through ............a. NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID or ............b. Out-of-state dealer = consult buyer's home state laws 3. Blackpowder and pellet handgun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = only a P2P and Photo ID required ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a P2P with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = no requirement ........(4) Out-of-state resident = no requirement ....B. Out-of-state resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = must be shipped to an out-of-state address ........(2) NJ resident = transfer must take place out-of-state 4. Blackpowder and pellet long gun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = only a FPID, COE and Photo ID required ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = no requirement ........(4) Out-of-state resident = no requirement ....B. Non-resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = only a FPID, COE and Photo ID required ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested or transfer must take place out-of-state NJ = "New Jersey"NICS = "National Instant Criminal Background Check System" P2P = "Permit to Purchase a Handgun and Form of Register" ID = "Identification" FPID = "State of NJ Firearms Purchaser IDENTIFICATION CARD" COE = "Certificate of Eligibility" Here are some state forms that you may need: Application to purchase a Handgun and Firearms Purchaser ID Card Consent for Mental Health Records Search (SP-66) Certificate of Eligibility Application for Multiple Handgun Purchase Exemption (SP-015) Application for Multiple Handgun Purchase Exemption Seller/Transferor Certification (SP-016) 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialK 193 Posted April 30, 2009 thanks for posting that I was curious about the non-resident's ability to buy in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted May 1, 2009 That's outstanding, thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted June 9, 2009 With regards to a NJ Resident Purchasing a Long gun from an out of state resident, would ATF Form 4473 go along with the NICS check? I don't see that form referenced on this flow chart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted June 9, 2009 my understanding, You can only purchase from out of state dealer.... not from out of state resident. if resident, has to go through ffl. otherwise, when i bought my long guns in PA, they did the nics, made sure it was jersey legal, and filled out my cert of eligibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted June 9, 2009 my understanding, You can only purchase from out of state dealer.... not from out of state resident. if resident, has to go through ffl. otherwise, when i bought my long guns in PA, they did the nics, made sure it was jersey legal, and filled out my cert of eligibility. From what I looked up yesterday, and from reading this flow chart, it looks like NJ Residents can't do any private out of state sales, like you said, everything via FFL. Just not sure were form 4473 comes in, with regards to out of state sales. Only concluding that it goes with the NICS check. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted June 9, 2009 The COE is used for any long gun purchases, sales, or transfer, between person to person, in nj, or ffl to purchaser out of state or here. Basicly, you use COE every time except for Pistols, where you need pistol permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ-Tom 4 Posted June 9, 2009 I saw this on another forum the OP made it availble for everybody to use, this is in addition to required paperwork by the state, any part of this document can be changed. Bill of SaleTransfer of Ownership For $______ received, I, (seller 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XDJohnTact 49 Posted August 8, 2009 Thanks Tom, great addition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted August 8, 2009 I have a Fillable .PDF File I can send to anyone who wants it. I can't upload a pdf to this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted August 9, 2009 I have a Fillable .PDF File I can send to anyone who wants it. I can't upload a pdf to this thread. You can make an account on esnips for free and link to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotshot 4 Posted August 9, 2009 thank you pk90 for making that list available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianargent 7 Posted August 17, 2009 Exactly what I was looking for - an NY resident friend of mine suggested I go to a gun show up there with him and I was wondering what I would need to buy a longarm from an FFL if the mood struck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zell959 40 Posted September 2, 2009 I'm currently waiting out the process of obtaining my F.I.D. and 2 permits to purchase handguns. Does anyone know if it is legal or illegal to put a deposit down on a handgun at a gun shop while I'm waiting with the actual purchase & transfer not occuring until I have obtained the FID & permit? I'm as green as they come on this subject, so forgive me if there are some pretty obvious reasons a gun shop would never agree to do this for a customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted September 2, 2009 I'm currently waiting out the process of obtaining my F.I.D. and 2 permits to purchase handguns. Does anyone know if it is legal or illegal to put a deposit down on a handgun at a gun shop while I'm waiting with the actual purchase & transfer not occuring until I have obtained the FID & permit? I'm as green as they come on this subject, so forgive me if there are some pretty obvious reasons a gun shop would never agree to do this for a customer. To my knowledge there's no laws against a shop taking a deposit. Nothing has changed hands as far as firearms goes. The shop may not want to bother with you because you could be rejected and it could take months. I know shops that will take deposits if you show your FPID and tell them you are waiting on permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SafetyHit 1 Posted April 25, 2010 thanks for posting that I was curious about the non-resident's ability to buy in NJ. You answered almost as though PK90 was answering a question of yours. Such wording can be less than effective. Perhaps you can specify what it is you would like to know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted May 18, 2010 I made this up awhile back. Hope it helps anyone looking to purchase or sell a firearm. 1. Handgun purchases by....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a P2P and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a P2P with Photo ID suggested So I can purchase a handgun from a NJ resident as long as it's face to face and I have a P2P? I don't need to have a NICS check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted May 18, 2010 I made this up awhile back. Hope it helps anyone looking to purchase or sell a firearm. 1. Handgun purchases by....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a P2P and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a P2P with Photo ID suggested So I can purchase a handgun from a NJ resident as long as it's face to face and I have a P2P? I don't need to have a NICS check? That is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted May 18, 2010 So I can purchase a handgun from a NJ resident as long as it's face to face and I have a P2P? I don't need to have a NICS check? That is correct. Thanks Dan. Glad I get to throw away 16.05 for NICS through a dealer. :roll: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woozy 0 Posted June 3, 2010 Quote: 1. Handgun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(4) Out-of-state resident = must be transferred through NJ dealer - Refer 1A(1) Maybe someone can help clarify further for me please; If my father who lives out of state wants to give me his hangun, could he drive to my town in NJ with the handgun and we then go to a nearby FFL and do the transaction there directly, assuming I have my NJ hangun purchase permit? Would this be allowed in NJ so I could avoid the shipping fee from originating from his state (Vermont)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted June 3, 2010 If my father who lives out of state wants to give me his hangun, could he drive to my town in NJ with the handgun and we then go to a nearby FFL and do the transaction there directly, assuming I have my NJ hangun purchase permit? Would this be allowed in NJ so I could avoid the shipping fee from originating from his state (Vermont)? Yes. Good to go. I would make sure the FFL is aware of this ahead of time just because I'm thorough. A few FFLs don't want to do transfers on guns they sell but most don't care. Also be cautious on transport since your father won't be protected under the federal statues. It shouldn't be a problem, just saying, you don't want to run afoul of the rules while he's in state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted June 4, 2010 I'm currently waiting out the process of obtaining my F.I.D. and 2 permits to purchase handguns. Does anyone know if it is legal or illegal to put a deposit down on a handgun at a gun shop while I'm waiting with the actual purchase & transfer not occuring until I have obtained the FID & permit? I'm as green as they come on this subject, so forgive me if there are some pretty obvious reasons a gun shop would never agree to do this for a customer. I put a hold on a handgun and a shotgun before I got my permits and FID. I just had to pay for it in full after 30 days. They told me to call if the 30 days is approaching and the permits haven't arrived. They would hang on to the firearm. Everything worked out, but your mileage may vary depending on the store. I got my stuff at BH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted June 4, 2010 ... drive to my town in NJ ... avoid the shipping fee ... I am sure that it would cost more in gas and tolls than to ship it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wavecaster 22 Posted December 5, 2010 1. Handgun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a P2P with Photo ID suggested Are there any requirements from the seller in this situation? Does the person selling a handgun need to have a FID or anything like that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted December 5, 2010 Does the person selling a handgun need to have a FID or anything like that? No, as a seller they do not need a Firearms PURCHASER Identification Card. Whether a pistol permit or a Certificate of Eligibility is filled out, the seller just enters "NONE" at the FPID number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damnyankee 1 Posted December 14, 2010 I am a legal resident of multiple states, including NJ. I have a NJ FPIC. My handguns have all been purchased legally in another state where I am also a legal resident. The other state does not have any gun registration requirements. I have been told by my local PD that I can legally bring a handgun that I legally own elsewhere into NJ, go to the range, shoot competitions, etc. and I do that. I am also covered by Federal Transportation Laws since I'm transporting it from one place where I can legally have the gun to another where I can legally have it. I have a handgun that I want to sell to a NJ resident. I have told him that he needs to get his FPIC and a Purchase Permit, which I believe covers his side of the transaction. What forms do I need and processes do I have to go through to sell the gun to him? Do I make it easier for myself to do a NJ Courtesy Registration of the gun before I sell and transfer it to him? How does that change the process? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted December 14, 2010 I am a legal resident of multiple states, including NJ. I have a NJ FPIC. My handguns have all been purchased legally in another state where I am also a legal resident. The other state does not have any gun registration requirements. I have been told by my local PD that I can legally bring a handgun that I legally own elsewhere into NJ, go to the range, shoot competitions, etc. and I do that. I am also covered by Federal Transportation Laws since I'm transporting it from one place where I can legally have the gun to another where I can legally have it. I have a handgun that I want to sell to a NJ resident. I have told him that he needs to get his FPCI and a Purchase Permit, which I believe covers his side of the transaction. What forms do I need and processes do I have to go through to sell the gun to him? Do I make it easier for myself to do a NJ Courtesy Registration of the gun before I sell and transfer it to him? How does that change the process? I would do the purchase through a NJ FFL just to be on the safe side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damnyankee 1 Posted December 15, 2010 I would do the purchase through a NJ FFL just to be on the safe side. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z71 4 Posted January 14, 2011 there is an on going disscussion at another forum (NJH)basically stating a nj resident can buy a BB HG or black powder pistol in Pa w/o a p2p and bring it home legally....I know BB guns arent real guns in Pa but you committ a crime when you cross the river into nj with a bb pistol, w/o a p2p and ffl transfere in nj right ?? I cant find the statue or law to prove me right..anyone know?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites