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Not sure if he was serious, or just another "senior" moment for him.

...."According to an article from the Seattle Times, Biden was in town to attend two private fundraisers, one of which was at the home of “a top Amazon executive.” The posh soiree set attendees back a princely $2,800 per-person. The other fundraiser was held at the home of a local philanthropist. That staider event offered donors a relative bargain with a $500 minimum price tag.

While speaking to attendees of the latter event, Biden claimed that he supports the Second Amendment. The 77-year-old then went on to ask “Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds?” Biden also shared his tired and inaccurate claim that because there is a shot-shell restriction for migratory bird hunting, “We protect geese from Canada more than we do people.”

In targeting 9mm pistols, Biden has called for a ban on one of the most popular firearms in America.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20191125/joe-biden-wants-to-ban-9mm-pistols

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8 hours ago, Sniper said:

Not sure if he was serious, or just another "senior" moment for him.

...."According to an article from the Seattle Times, Biden was in town to attend two private fundraisers, one of which was at the home of “a top Amazon executive.” The posh soiree set attendees back a princely $2,800 per-person. The other fundraiser was held at the home of a local philanthropist. That staider event offered donors a relative bargain with a $500 minimum price tag.

While speaking to attendees of the latter event, Biden claimed that he supports the Second Amendment. The 77-year-old then went on to ask “Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds?” Biden also shared his tired and inaccurate claim that because there is a shot-shell restriction for migratory bird hunting, “We protect geese from Canada more than we do people.”

In targeting 9mm pistols, Biden has called for a ban on one of the most popular firearms in America.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20191125/joe-biden-wants-to-ban-9mm-pistols

They feel emboldened and can finally speak about what they truly want..

Finally the truth is known....however, worry when they STOP talking about it.....when they are in the shadows they are most dangerous.

Like a lurking un detected cancer they spread ...quitely

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The left really wants to start something.  Good luck with that.   It's a slippery slope.  Once there is casual contempt for law, other laws become less likely to be followed.   They seem to think we aren't voluntarily governed.    We choose to live under these laws, many of which are arbitrary.    Once their side of the deal is broken, don't expect us to hold to our side of it.   This doesn't mean picking up a gun and harming someone, god forbid.  It means the system gets broken, the same system upon which these fools are delicately perched.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Malsua said:

The left really wants to start something.  Good luck with that.   It's a slippery slope.  Once there is casual contempt for law, other laws become less likely to be followed.   They seem to think we aren't voluntarily governed.    We choose to live under these laws, many of which are arbitrary.    Once their side of the deal is broken, don't expect us to hold to our side of it.   This doesn't mean picking up a gun and harming someone, god forbid.  It means the system gets broken, the same system upon which these fools are delicately perched.

@Malsua:

You made an excellent observation and point, which I agree with.
Yet, it is not just the far left that wants to start something, it is also the far right.  Both sides are naively advocating things that would lead to the destruction of our country's democratic goals and Constitutional Republic form of government.  We are in a very precarious time that if cooler minds do not prevail, could erupt into something that would be most regrettable for all of us.

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5 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said:

They feel emboldened and can finally speak about what they truly want..

Finally the truth is known....however, worry when they STOP talking about it.....when they are in the shadows they are most dangerous.

Like a lurking un detected cancer they spread ...quitely

Schumer comes to mind when shadows are mentioned.  

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In my opinion...

I wonder when some on here realize that the far right has little power and in particular because they have no media coverage (and also because they are morons).  The radical Left and its media on the other hand... though It is a fringe like the far Right is, it is much more dangerous because it is relentless and deceptive and has hijacked the  discourse and the media largely through bullying and lies.  Centrist Constitutionalists are lumped in with the loony far right to villainize them and silence them Undemocratically by the Radical Left as it incites a mob-like group think.   These centrists with traditional American values are NOT radicals like the far right and the statists and those governing mainstream radical "far" leftists in power. 

Biden was just trying to change the subject and focus on something besides the Ukraine for obvious reasons.  The whole gun control tyranny of the last year was largely to do that as well and to take eyes off of those lurking in the shadows.  The Left knew it as overplaying its hand and was taking a chance, much like it did when it "allowed" media coverage for Trump over the other conservatively portrayed Republican candidates.  He was meant to be left with Hilary because they underestimated that he had more negatives.  Trump was never suppose to have won but the American people don't want what the Left envisions.  The false Russian narrative was suppose to have been an insurance policy AND the ludicrous Impeachment debacle was suppose to have worked as well when that didn't work.  It wasn't even so much as necessary to actually impeach the President unjustly, but to keep pounding the media with false and trumped-up negatives.  The statists and Washington incumbants have largely exposed and overplayed their hand in a frenzied and desparate effort.  Nevertheless, Biden with his foolish comments illustrates that there will never be enough for the Left...  Nerf guns will be next!  There cannot be anymore compromise with the radical (mainstream) Left.   They need to be made as irrelevant and insignificant as the Far Right.  In my opinion, the media which attempts to divide and discourage  and condition, it needs to be remade, and our children need to be healed from the progressive pablum. 

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3 hours ago, AVB-AMG said:

@Malsua:

You made an excellent observation and point, which I agree with.
Yet, it is not just the far left that wants to start something, it is also the far right.  Both sides are naively advocating things that would lead to the destruction of our country's democratic goals and Constitutional Republic form of government.  We are in a very precarious time that if cooler minds do not prevail, could erupt into something that would be most regrettable for all of us.

AVB-AMG

Malsua said "left", not "far left". 

The key difference here is that the current 2020 Democratic candidates (i.e. the "left" - Biden) are openly/mainstream advocating this stuff.  No one from the "right" is advocating anything that would lead to the destruction of our country's democratic goals and Constitutional Republic form of government.

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16 minutes ago, tomk62 said:

Malsua said "left", not "far left". 

The key difference here is that the current 2020 Democratic candidates (i.e. the "left" - Biden) are openly/mainstream advocating this stuff.  No one from the "right" is advocating anything that would lead to the destruction of our country's democratic goals and Constitutional Republic form of government.

Exactly. In short what we are seeing is the lefts advocation of absurd " something's" and the rights reaction to those "something's". The right is pushing back, they are not the ones initiating the trouble. Left- we want to take your guns. Right- no you can't have them........Left- we want open borders. Right- no, that's not safe and an economic catastrophe in the waiting.......Left- we want to give you free free free. Right- no, you will bankrupt the country so.......It's one stupid agenda after another. The right is trying to hold the line but the left is blazing a path that will ruin this country.

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Siderman, I completely agree, except in my humble opinion it is not the RIGHT, but the mainstream Americans in general, some who have been hoodwinked, that are now finally saying NO...  the centrist, law-abiding Americans, that are trying to stop the "fundamental change" of a Democratic Republic into something else.  Simply put it is the Statist, Progressive, "Socialist" Leftists and RINOs and their agenda against the American People.  They are not attacking Trump, they are attacking us and our Constitution (which was established and put in place to limit their power and  their generated mob rule).  Unless we take back the discourse and the media (and especially pertaining to our children's education) and give a little tap on the shoulders of those that have been conditioned, the globalists and their Leftist minions and their dishonest media will all continue to destroy our culture and erode our freedoms.  We are not the Right, we are the reasonable, law-abiding American citizens.   With all of Trump's personal faults he is able to effectively communicate this message over and over with a little tap here and a little tap there as more Americans begin to pay attention and see the treachery of the Statist-Controlled Media.  Biden and the others cannot run on their tyrannical agenda.  The Americans would never willingly accept it now, but that inevitable docile-ness and compliance are being cultivated as the Left runs on creating havoc, fear, scapegoats, and most importantly by dividing the American people.

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15 hours ago, JackDaWack said:

It doesnt matter what any politician says about the second amendment, they will sign any piece of legislation they can limiting it, any one of them.

Fixed it for you. Having been through this in England in 1997 I have first hand knowledge of how politicians from any party will say and do whatever they think it's best for themselves at any time.

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9 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:

Fixed it for you. Having been through this in England in 1997 I have first hand knowledge of how politicians from any party will say and do whatever they think it's best for themselves at any time.

They are all PIGS - that need a short piece of rope and a slightly longer drop, than the rope length.  They have all forgotten their place, their oaths of office and the idea of serving and not taking and being 'privileged'.

They serve at our pleasure, they forget that.

as @Malsua has said - it is truly voluntary governance

They also forget their is not enough law enforcement personnel in the nation - should a day ever come where there is 'mass disobedience' of unjust laws that are against the USCON.

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2019/09/19/violate-your-oath-and-turn-on-american-citizens-at-your-legal-peril-gun-grabbers-n2553286

 

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Bottom line, it is likely Trump is done, one way or another. Those who believe the Supreme Court is going to save us will probably be dead by the time that happens. If the Senate goes Dem it is game over.

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7 minutes ago, SJG said:

Bottom line, it is likely Trump is done, one way or another. Those who believe the Supreme Court is going to save us will probably be dead by the time that happens. If the Senate goes Dem it is game over.

Ok - war game this - Congress, Senate and POTUS - all Dem - NJ on steroids.

They ban ALL firearms except single shot .22's and Shotguns that can only handle less than 3 rounds - full retard.

What are *you* going to do?

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1 minute ago, USRifle30Cal said:

Ok - war game this - Congress, Senate and POTUS - all Dem - NJ on steroids.

They ban ALL firearms except single shot .22's and Shotguns that can only handle less than 3 rounds - full retard.

What are *you* going to do?

Same thing will happen as last year; when they made 11+ magazines illegal...nothing.

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5 minutes ago, Malsua said:

Maintain OPSEC.

 

 

AGREE !!  LOL

 

It was more rhetorical and I do not expect, or want an answer - more of what are you prepared to do.

 

 

3 minutes ago, W2MC said:

Same thing will happen as last year; when they made 11+ magazines illegal...nothing.

Therein you missed my point - no answer needed, but did you comply?

 

And what are you prepared to do - if and when they go full retard....???  Are you prepared to defend your liberty under penalty of death?  

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7 minutes ago, W2MC said:

Same thing will happen as last year; when they made 11+ magazines illegal...nothing.

Same thing as when CT demanded registration, or when NY enacted their SAFE law, or when New Zealand & Australia enacted their laws...mass non-compliance.

Its a stand-off --- gun owners are ignoring their demands, and govt isn't going to go house-to-house.

 

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Ok, a better answer then.

If you read Kurt's article that you posted., he identifies several groups.  I'll get to that in a second.

I follow Kurt on Twitter and have read all his books.  New one out Thursday.  They are a hoot.

Anyway,  He's got 3 major groups.

40% that loudly and profoundly decry it, and quit or whatever.

40% That agree to their face but don't do it anyway.

20% bootlickers who will follow their master's orders.

Kurt is missing a much larger contingent though.  People, who, through the ordinary course of events, know how things work and subsequently know how to break things.  I'm talking in generalities here.   The electrical worker who knows which switch to trip at a sub station or even which contact to file to make something work flaky.   The telco worker who knows what wire to cut.   The programmer who knows what script to break.  The sewage plant worker who knows how to close a valve halfway so the system clogs.    Things that make life tolerable when they work, become intolerable when they don't.    People who can sabotage ordinary life and make it miserable for the people who enact these asshole policies.    This is the group I belong to.   Once you truly grok how society works, it becomes trivial to make it not work.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, tomk62 said:

How so?

Statement made with spiked koolaid embibed.  Must be NPR audience member.  

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1 hour ago, Underdog said:

Statement made with spiked koolaid embibed.  Must be NPR audience member.  

What Pro 2A laws (or which ones reversed) has Trump done in 3 years? What Pro 2A laws did we get when he had a Repub majority for 2 years?

There's your answer, like it or not.

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Again, it is pretty much Trump and the American people against all of the Washington Statists and their walking dead horde. Trump's side has the resources and the brains.   The Democrats keep poking the Grizzly Bear.

Trump is not done as long as the people are behind him. 

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