Here we go! - West Milford NJ declares itself a 2A sanctuary

[Smokin .50 1,907]

39 minutes ago, USRifle30Cal said:

I will answer for you - no one -

 

This was posted yesterday - no comments - 72 views - almost NO uptick in vote counts.

 

And I have spent most of the day fielding texts telling me that the resolution means nothing - what does it do for us? etc.

The folks texting me all talk and no action and naysayers - typical brainwashed NJersyans......

I bet if a petition was made talking about pork roll or ham - the NJGF community would have the numbers through the roof - this I guess not so much.

I do my best every day.  I will die a poor man because of it.  I can only give one life.  I need helpers, NOT LURKERS!

Tonight I will pour myself a drink.  And maybe a second!  I have earned it!  WE HAVE EARNED IT!

You did a great job on that article.  You write more creatively than I do, and have a larger vocabulary.  (CLINK)  A toast to YOU Sir!

~R

[Downtownv 1,774]

I know the perfect man to head this up!

Some of you may know the name: Frank Fiamango

[tony357 386]

This is a good start lets see them keep coming. 

[Downtownv 1,774]

The VCDL released this:

Virginia Citizens Defense League Issues Important Statement

 

Tim Brown / December 18, 2019

 

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As the tension mounts in Virginia with tyrannical representatives and a governor who doesn’t care for the law seeking to confiscate the people’s guns and even use the national guard against them, the Virginia Citizens Defense League has issued an important statement concerning their upcoming Capitol Lobby Day, and clarifying their various protest days in Virginia.

Here’s VCDL’s statement followed by actual resolve and results in pictures of what they are doing across the state.

Monday, January 20, is Virginia Citizens Defense League’s Lobby Day. It is not VCDL’s Protest Day.

 

There is a distinct difference between the two.

Lobby Day is about, well, lobbying – sending a message to the General Assembly and to the Governor, Attorney General, and the Lt. Governor. That message is simple: no more gun control that in any way, shape, or form negatively affects law-abiding gun owners. Bills that go after criminals or bills that are beneficial to gun owners are fine.

While there have been some verbal threats by the Democrat leadership to push major gun control down the throats of Virginia’s gun owners and some very bad bills already filed to back up that threat, NOTHING has happened yet and won’t until after January 8th 2020. And perhaps it won’t happen at all if we press hard enough.

The second amendment sanctuary movement, with its absolutely massive turnouts of gun owners, is sending a deafening message to lawmakers ahead of Lobby Day. On top of that, we now believe the size of the crowd on Lobby Day could be absolutely incredible, possibly historic if gun owners from around the state follow through and attend as we believe they will. You will absolutely want to be a part of this!

Militias

Various militia groups from Virginia and nearby states have graciously volunteered to provide security. With a large Capitol, Richmond, and State police presence, not to mention enough citizens armed with handguns to take over a modern mid-sized country, we have the security base covered nicely. That said, we welcome our militia brothers and sisters to be part of making the day a success! Some militia groups are looking to take canned food donations during Lobby Day and deliver them to a Richmond Food Bank. Please contribute.

Long Guns

If you are asking how you can help with VCDL’s mission, carrying long guns at Lobby Day is not helpful – it is a distraction. Virginia Citizens Defense League’s important messages inevitably get lost as the press rushes to get pictures of anyone carrying an AR or AK. The stories then become about the rifle, not Virginia Citizens Defense League’s agenda. You can set your watch by it. Long guns are not easy to carry in a crowd, either. VCDL needs its voice heard loud and clear in order to able to stop the onslaught of gun-control bills.

Laws you need to know for carry in Richmond

You can’t have a magazine in a centerfire rifle or pistol that holds more than 20 rounds unless you have a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP). You must also have a Virginia CHP if the centerfire rifle or pistol has a threaded barrel or a folding stock. Click here to see the code section, which also covers similar restrictions on shotguns: 18.2-287.4

Open carry without a CHP is legal in Virginia, but watch the restrictions in the previous paragraph.

You need a CHP to carry in the General Assembly or Capitol Building. Once through security, you can carry openly or concealed in the buildings. You cannot carry in the gallery over the Senator Floor. Keep an eye on these alerts. Should any of this change, we will notify you here.

Virginia Citizens Defense League Lobby Day is a peaceful event about gun rights and NOTHING ELSE

We are NOT there to have arguments with the other side. They lobby, we lobby, and never the two shall meet. Just ignore them.

And we are not there to push any other agenda. Our total focus is on protecting our right to keep and bear arms. Period. This is not about flags, statues, history, etc. Just guns.

If you somehow find yourself being harassed by the other side, don’t engage them. They could well be baiting you and recording what you do for propaganda purposes. If necessary, go find a police officer and let them take care of the person causing the disturbance. Otherwise, just ignore them and go about your business.

VCDL has a great relationship with the Capitol Police, the Richmond Police, the Virginia State Police, and most other law enforcement agencies in the Commonwealth. We welcome their presence and are glad they are there to keep everything peaceful, while we work on the job at hand.

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This should be a great event, with freedom-loving Americans from all walks of life standing should-to-should to protect our most precious civil right – the right of self-defense. See you there!

Watch VA-ALERT or the Rally Facebook page for more details.

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So, are people really turning out in Virginia to protest? They sure are!

Take a look at these photos!  The press sure isn’t reporting on this!

Massive turnouts for Board of Supervisors meetings!

Amelia County – standing room only, with crowd overllow through the hall and down to the front of the building.  Estimated 600 people.

Shenandoah County – estimated 1,000 gun owners at the meeting, which overflowed into the parking lot!

Louisa County – estimated 600 to 800:

August County – estimated 2,000 people.  Massive overflow outside, too:

Virginia Beach – estimated 1,500 people.  Overflow outside:

Floyd County – estimated over 1,000

Prince George – estimated 600 to 800

Colonial Heights

Spotsylvania County – estimated well over 1,000

Prince William County – estimated well over 1,000

Smyth County – over 1,000

Caroline County – over 600

Bedford County – 1,500+

Chesapeake – over 1,000

Rockingham County – 2,000+

Russell County – over 1,000 in attendance

Fauquier County – 2,000+ in attendance

Lancaster County

Chesterfield County – 1,500

Yeah, go ahead tyrants!  You think all these people are just going to let you roll over them?  I don’t think so.

Article posted with permission from Sons Of Liberty Media

 

I went to School (Pronounced: skewl) in Virginia a few years ago (1971-1975) It was Guns and Bible country then and I can assure you little has changed. I was a Yankee until my 3rd year when they actually realized we were not very different.

People I knew were ancestors of Confederate soldiers and they will not roll over to no government BS.

They are VERY unlike the the NJ gun owners (fragmented into small 2a support groups and ineffective)

If I was 20 years younger I would enlist with them and they would take me in a heart beat.

Ready on the Right Line. Ready on the Left Line. Ready on the Firing Line.

 

[RUTGERS95 890]

I hope the VCDL takes on a national approach after this.  I'd prefer to send them money than Wayne

[Downtownv 1,774]

On 12/10/2019 at 2:49 PM, Mrs. Peel said:

WOW! Virginia is one thing, but I didn't dare hope to see that in NJ. I hope this picks up steam!!

 

On 12/10/2019 at 3:02 PM, USRifle30Cal said:

WOOHOO !!!  Sussex county WTF step up !!!!!!!!

 

 

On 12/10/2019 at 3:23 PM, 10X said:

Kudos to West Milford!

Though the declaration does stop short of saying they won't prosecute or will otherwise ignore recent changes to state law.

 

On 12/10/2019 at 3:52 PM, Old Glock guy said:

Damn, it's so rare to see good 2A news in NJ!

 

On 12/10/2019 at 4:26 PM, silverado427 said:

This is amazing news. 

 

On 12/10/2019 at 4:45 PM, USRifle30Cal said:

sign the petition !

 

https://www.change.org/p/mayor-howard-burrell-declaration-of-a-2a-sanctuary-town-county-in-vernon-nj-and-sussex-county-nj?recruiter=11611968&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=Search>SAP>US>NonBrand>Exact

 

 

On 12/10/2019 at 4:51 PM, JohnnyB said:

 

Signed......I am the 2nd to sign.  We can do better than that!

 

On 12/10/2019 at 6:10 PM, Sniper said:

Wait, you don't love dogs???? Are you a terrorist?

 

On 12/10/2019 at 7:22 PM, Sota said:

it's all tilting at windmills until they actually defy a court order.  I have no faith in WM not folding when pushed.

 

On 12/10/2019 at 9:54 PM, RUTGERS95 said:

more towns need to do this

 

On 12/11/2019 at 8:20 AM, 1LtCAP said:

and if they're the only ones, it will also be useless.. the rest of the local govts need to jump onboard now like they all did in va

 

 

On 12/11/2019 at 8:27 AM, Sota said:

More like, I know piss vs. rain, when it's running down my back.  When shit's literally on fire, yo, then I'll believe the winds of change are blowing.

 

On 12/11/2019 at 4:39 PM, Sota said:

I hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong.  First round of expensive booze is on me if I'm totally fucking wrong.

But i'm pretty sure, i'm not wrong.

 

On 12/11/2019 at 4:47 PM, Zeke said:

I’m holding you to that!

 

On 12/11/2019 at 4:47 PM, Sniper said:

 

On 12/11/2019 at 6:12 PM, siderman said:

Hoorah for WM! But the sick irony is that it's in Passaic county (somehow!) with Paterson as it's county seat. Reminds me of NY State. Upper is beautiful country but has a gangrenous  city at the bottom. 

 

On 12/11/2019 at 10:00 PM, Regular Guy said:

I hope this spreads.  It's time this state figures out that they can only govern us so long as we allow them to govern us.

 

And I hope it helps the cases before SCOTUS.  The state will have that much harder of a time arguing in favor of their laws when their own municipalities are refusing to abide by and enforce them.

 

On 12/15/2019 at 11:40 AM, JackDaWack said:

Just gonna leave this here... for those who criticized.. 

https://www.njherald.com/news/20191215/freeholders-asked-to-declare-sussex--second-amendment-sanctuary

 

On 12/16/2019 at 1:58 PM, capt14k said:

Amazing that there can be any negativity towards something so positive. 

 

On 12/17/2019 at 6:23 AM, deerpark said:

So what function does it serve?

 

On 12/17/2019 at 6:42 AM, deerpark said:

I'm asking seriously. 

Does anyone know the specifics?

 

On 12/17/2019 at 2:45 PM, Smokin .50 said:

So who on this forum wants to be in charge of this project?  Be the lead, the Go-To Person.  Maybe get interviewed?

2A:  YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT OR YOU CAN BE ABOUT IT!

Rosey

 

On 12/17/2019 at 3:36 PM, tomk62 said:

I think your Virginia status map is way out of date ...

 

On 12/17/2019 at 4:16 PM, tomk62 said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/virginias-second-amendment-sanctuaries-an-update/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_sanctuary

 

On 12/17/2019 at 4:59 PM, Smokin .50 said:

I do my best every day.  I will die a poor man because of it.  I can only give one life.  I need helpers, NOT LURKERS!

Tonight I will pour myself a drink.  And maybe a second!  I have earned it!  WE HAVE EARNED IT!

You did a great job on that article.  You write more creatively than I do, and have a larger vocabulary.  (CLINK)  A toast to YOU Sir!

~R

 

On 12/17/2019 at 5:41 PM, tony357 said:

This is a good start lets see them keep coming. 

DID YOU WRITE TO YOUR MAYOR, FREEHOLDERS AND STATE REPS?????????

[Downtownv 1,774]

Part of the problem is we have Fragmented Pro 2 Groups, that they know we are divided.

Virginia has ONE organization and they carry a really big stick!

The results are evident in their unity.

[Zeke 5,504]

24 minutes ago, Downtownv said:

Part of the problem is we have Fragmented Pro 2 Groups, that they know we are divided.

Virginia has ONE organization and they carry a really big stick!

The results are evident in their unity.

No shit?

[CAL. .30 M1 2,101]

1 hour ago, Downtownv said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DID YOU WRITE TO YOUR MAYOR, FREEHOLDERS AND STATE REPS?????????

Did quite a bit more than that.... 

[Downtownv 1,774]

Oaks Gun Show and Virginia Is already the "talk of the show" seems like a lot of volunteer talk from Pennsy Gunners.

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Hell yeah I reached out to them. Space got my vote for a reason. 

[JackDaWack 2,895]

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiXGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJlY29yZG9ubGluZS5jb20vbmV3cy8yMDE5MTIyMC9zdXNzZXgtYm9yb3VnaC1kZWNsYXJlcy1zdXBwb3J0LWZvci0ybmQtYW1lbmRtZW500gFsaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmVjb3Jkb25saW5lLmNvbS9uZXdzLzIwMTkxMjIwL3N1c3NleC1ib3JvdWdoLWRlY2xhcmVzLXN1cHBvcnQtZm9yLTJuZC1hbWVuZG1lbnQ_dGVtcGxhdGU9YW1wYXJ0?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

 

And now sussex (municipality) has declared its support!!

[Combat Auto 174]

Nomination for new NRA spokesperson :-): They really are standing-up down there.

 

[fslater 62]

I read this article in the paper when it first came out, but I haven't been on the forum in a couple weeks. Today is Dec 29th, 19 days after the link was added here. I immediately went to, read and signed the petition.  While doing so noticed it only had 246 signatures. 246 IN 19 DAYS. That's disgusting! Wanna know why 2A things in NJ don't change? If you haven't signed look in the mirror.

[Downtownv 1,774]

4 minutes ago, fslater said:

I read this article in the paper when it first came out, but I haven't been on the forum in a couple weeks. Today is Dec 29th, 19 days after the link was added here. I immediately went to, read and signed the petition.  While doing so noticed it only had 246 signatures. 246 IN 19 DAYS. That's discussing! Wanna know why 2A things in NJ don't change? If you haven't signed look in the mirror.

Apathy begot us these draconian laws. The Pols know this and now so do ya'll.

[CAL. .30 M1 2,101]

11 hours ago, fslater said:

I read this article in the paper when it first came out, but I haven't been on the forum in a couple weeks. Today is Dec 29th, 19 days after the link was added here. I immediately went to, read and signed the petition.  While doing so noticed it only had 246 signatures. 246 IN 19 DAYS. That's discussing! Wanna know why 2A things in NJ don't change? If you haven't signed look in the mirror.

It seems there is more concern if its called pork roll or taylor ham.....

 

11 hours ago, fslater said:

I read this article in the paper when it first came out, but I haven't been on the forum in a couple weeks. Today is Dec 29th, 19 days after the link was added here. I immediately went to, read and signed the petition.  While doing so noticed it only had 246 signatures. 246 IN 19 DAYS. That's discussing! Wanna know why 2A things in NJ don't change? If you haven't signed look in the mirror.

It seems there is more concern if its called pork roll or taylor ham.....

[Downtownv 1,774]

Walking the walk, VA is

They have a nationwide Call to Arms going on there.

Both the VCDL and The Virginia Militia. Yankees welcome, this time.

NJ , not so much

 

[Combat Auto 174]

VA-Patriots are the real deal...Organized, coordinated, approximately 90% Sanctuary 2A for the entire state, forming militia, local-cops, sheriffs on their side, a lot different then NJ. VA has a significant gun culture. Basically they are telling the Evil-Governor, you want them "come and take them", and I believe they mean it.

Consider joining the VCDL if you have a few bucks (only 25$). VA is the modern-day acid test to see if citizen's can resist communist-state tyranny in our country (VA will not be the last state to be flipped left due to demographic changes in this country). Although I don't think here in NJ we will ever duplicate what they are doing there (I am still waiting for the NJ republican party and my state senator and assembly-person's to get back to me on my Sanctuary 2A request for my township - lol), a win for the VA-Patriots will be a win for all of us, if they pull it off.

[Downtownv 1,774]

NJ the soprano State.

Lots of tough Guys. Lots of big Talk. No Action.

 

The exact opposite of Virginia

No tough Guys. No Big Talk.

JUST ACTION.

I know these people, They are willing to die on this hill.

 

[Robert Neville 0]

Is there a petition to sign for Warren County anywhere?

[CAL. .30 M1 2,101]

4 hours ago, Robert Neville said:

Is there a petition to sign for Warren County anywhere?

Nah find the one abt taylor ham or pork roll...that seems to be the important topic here   

[Downtownv 1,774]

11 hours ago, Robert Neville said:

Is there a petition to sign for Warren County anywhere?

You Wanna start with phone calls emails and letters, see above