Old_Hunter 28 Posted February 13, 2020 Well, that uproar (rally) in Virginia may have been by a minority of the people. After all, it’s the Virginia voters who elected the Democrat/liberal politicians who passed this bill. Supposedly voter turnout was 47% in the last election, the highest it’s been in decades. Virginia is no longer a red/Republican/conservative state. Virginians have voted more and more Democrats into their higher offices (congressmen, senators, governors, attorneys general) over the past decade +. Virginia voters even overlooked the slime that trails behind that Clinton crony, Terry McAuliffe, and made him their Governor. – They say Virginia is increasingly populated by more and more liberal lobbyists, high-paid lawyers, and government employees; the VA counties that surround D.C. have become like the MD counties that surround D.C. – people working in well-paid govt. jobs, lobbyists, millionaire lawyers with govt. or lobbyist contracts, etc. And then there’s all the jobs associated with the military – no longer can people in the military be assumed to be all, or mostly, conservative-minded individuals. Bloomberg’s reach and money is scary. And to think this was pulled off in the NRA’s turf, where they were outspent in the last election Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted February 14, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 9:13 PM, Sniper said: The video: Who owns this house? Certainly NOT the Capital Police... Sturmabteilung? Clearly not on the side of the American people. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted February 17, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-assault-weapons-ban-fails-in-legislature Shelved until next year, but there are 7 more "common sense" bills to come. I wonder what convinced a few Dems to vote against it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 17, 2020 It failed in their senate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC_68Westy 1,024 Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zeke said: It failed in their senate We never gave up here in VA. There has been a massive phone and email campaign along with people showing up at their delegate and senator's offices to voice concern. I got really involved down here and the sheer number of people involved was awesome. Nobody waited for an organization to do it for them. My county and most others stood up grass roots 2A groups. It was a very organic process. County and Local LEO overwhelmingly stated that they would not enforce any ban. The VASP troopers in private said they did not support it. 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,148 Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, JC_68Westy said: We never gave up here in VA. There has been a massive phone and email campaign along with people showing up at their delegate and senator's offices to voice concern. I got really involved down here and the sheer number of people involved was awesome. Nobody waited for an organization to do it for them. My county and most others stood up grass roots 2A groups. It was a very organic process. County and Local LEO overwhelmingly stated that they would not enforce any ban. The VASP troopers in private said they did not support it. Good on ALL of you! A very impressive display. You'll have to keep the pressure on obviously... because Northam will come back at that ban in a year. Though, I have a feeling this whole situation will spur a lot of pro-2A people to get out and vote and even to run for local and higher office, which is really what's needed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, JC_68Westy said: We never gave up here in VA. There has been a massive phone and email campaign along with people showing up at their delegate and senator's offices to voice concern. I got really involved down here and the sheer number of people involved was awesome. Nobody waited for an organization to do it for them. My county and most others stood up grass roots 2A groups. It was a very organic process. County and Local LEO overwhelmingly stated that they would not enforce any ban. The VASP troopers in private said they did not support it. God bless you guys! From my heart! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted February 18, 2020 Yes, don't give an inch to tyranny, fellow law-abiding Americans! I salute you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted February 18, 2020 Nice work Virginia! They accomplished something we have been incapable of here in NJ: Stopping an out of control Democratic majority hell bent on stripping 2A rights. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,884 Posted February 18, 2020 I can see why people are celebrating the tabling of one bill. However, I think they are victims of the usual gun grabbers play/ploy. They propose something really bad and when they give up on it, even for a while, we declare victory even though the other less bad, but bad nonetheless, bills pass. There were 3 other bills that were passed. This wasn't a victory, just a less bad defeat - for now. The bill was tabled, not voted down. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC_68Westy 1,024 Posted February 19, 2020 20 hours ago, Mr.Stu said: I can see why people are celebrating the tabling of one bill. However, I think they are victims of the usual gun grabbers play/ploy. They propose something really bad and when they give up on it, even for a while, we declare victory even though the other less bad, but bad nonetheless, bills pass. There were 3 other bills that were passed. This wasn't a victory, just a less bad defeat - for now. The bill was tabled, not voted down. The bill was voted down in committee 10-5. It could not move forward. Three Democrat Senators voted with the Republicans. The reason it was tabled it there was no point in trying to move forward or debate it because of the down vote in committee. One thing we did here in VA is we as individuals kept the pressure up with phone calls every day and emails. This doesn't happen in NJ. There are too many naysayers in NJ that are truly defeatists that don't bother to fight. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted February 19, 2020 20 hours ago, Mr.Stu said: I can see why people are celebrating the tabling of one bill. However, I think they are victims of the usual gun grabbers play/ploy. They propose something really bad and when they give up on it, even for a while, we declare victory even though the other less bad, but bad nonetheless, bills pass. There were 3 other bills that were passed. This wasn't a victory, just a less bad defeat - for now. The bill was tabled, not voted down. Obama loved compromise. Where compromise means that they ask fro way, WAY more than they want, and you meet them in the middle and give them everything they want. Because they believe they are very smart to come up with such an idea and that you are too stupid to understand what they are doing. Bloomberg bought them a state government. They will float everything his gun grabbing minions have ever considered, but don't expect all of it to be fought for tooth and nail. That would mean they would have to be true believers and prepared to suffer the consequences of doing something. Which politicians are very adverse to. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,884 Posted February 19, 2020 8 hours ago, JC_68Westy said: The bill was voted down in committee 10-5. It could not move forward. Three Democrat Senators voted with the Republicans. The reason it was tabled it there was no point in trying to move forward or debate it because of the down vote in committee. One thing we did here in VA is we as individuals kept the pressure up with phone calls every day and emails. This doesn't happen in NJ. There are too many naysayers in NJ that are truly defeatists that don't bother to fight. You appear to be missing my point. The one bill was defeated, but the anti-gun lobby still walked away with 3 victories. I'm not a naysayer for being able to see this. Imagine a bill that increases taxes to from 25% to 90%. It is not a victory if it is changed to 50%. You are still paying more taxes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capt14k 2,051 Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 5:31 PM, Mr.Stu said: You appear to be missing my point. The one bill was defeated, but the anti-gun lobby still walked away with 3 victories. I'm not a naysayer for being able to see this. Imagine a bill that increases taxes to from 25% to 90%. It is not a victory if it is changed to 50%. You are still paying more taxes. Yeah but the difference is even the laws they pass in Richmond won't mean a thing when they can't be enforced because there are armed militias ready to stand with their fellow Virginians, which include an overwhelming majority of sheriffs? Who is going to want the blood on their hands? Who will enforce the laws if County Sheriff will not? National Guard? Not if Trump pulls an Ike. State Police? I doubt it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,848 Posted Wednesday at 02:29 PM Not this year. Youngkin Utterly Destroys Gun Control Push by VA Dems (townhall.com) 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grima Squeakersen 473 Posted Wednesday at 06:18 PM 3 hours ago, 45Doll said: Not this year. Youngkin Utterly Destroys Gun Control Push by VA Dems (townhall.com) I own property in Virginia (vacation and off-grid, bail-out-to property), have been a VCDL member, and I think Youngkin did a tremendously good job with the veto pen. I just hope he gets reelected in 2025 and has a friendlier House of Delegates to work with tthen (VA Senate isn't up unitl 2027). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 235 Posted 16 hours ago 22 hours ago, 45Doll said: Not this year. Youngkin Utterly Destroys Gun Control Push by VA Dems (townhall.com) Good to hear. In Pennsylvania, it's the Senate that has to stay strong this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites