blksheep 466 Posted March 13, 2020 NICS is at least 300 deep as of 3pm. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted March 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, blksheep said: NICS is at least 300 deep as of 3pm. Good luck. https://www.yahoo.com/news/asian-americans-terrified-coronavirus-backlash-161833574.html As the number of confirmed 2019 novel coronavirus cases continues to multiply, many Americans are emptying store shelves of hand sanitizer, bleach, and canned goods. But there’s an acute fear among Asian Americans that the virus’ origins in China will spark a violent xenophobic backlash. Along the West Coast, where the worst outbreaks of coronavirus in the U.S. have occurred, those fears seem to be spurring a surge in gun sales. “People are panicking because they don’t feel secure,” said David Liu, who is Chinese American and owns Arcadia Firearm and Safety, which is just east of Los Angeles. “They worry about a riot or maybe that people will start to target the Chinese.” Liu said his store had seen a fivefold increase in sales over the past two weeks. He’s sold out of Glock handguns, and some customers have requested to buy his entire inventory of ammunition branded for home defense. “They think it’s Costco,” he said. Coronavirus Is Scary Enough for Some People to Risk Deportation According to Liu, the surge customers are overwhelmingly of Chinese descent. They worry, he explained, that in the event of mass panic, they might face violence because of their ethnicity, and be easy victims because of their historically low rates of gun ownership. Surveysof gun ownership don’t usually track Asian Americans separately, but instead include them in an “other” category that is typically very small. As The Los Angeles Times has reported, since the first novel coronavirus outbreaks in the United States, Asian Americans have experienced intensifying venom, including bullying, racist comments, and harassment. On February 24, a man of East Asian descent was assaulted in central London. One of the assailants reportedly said, “I don't want your coronavirus in my country.” “The main thing I’m hearing is that they don’t wanna get jumped because of their race,” said Cole Gaughran, the internet sales manager at Wade’s Eastside Guns in Bellevue, Washington. Gaughran said his store has seen a sixfold increase in sales in the same two weeks. His new customers, most of them first-time gun owners, were almost entirely of Asian descent, he said. Bellevue is just a 15 minute drive from Kirkland, where at least 11 people have died from the virus. There’s no way to get an accurate accounting for how many people buy guns on a weekly basis, or in real time. However, in Washington, local police departments do process background checks for most first-time gun buyers. In Bellevue, police say they’ve registered the spike in demand. Meeghan Black, the police department’s public information officer, said that since August of last year, the department has processed a steady average of around 158 checks per month. But in the first four days of March, they handled more than a hundred. “The officer who processes these checks said he’s been processing the last ten years, and has never seen anything like this in his life,” she added. A stack of firearm transfers slated for processing from this past weekend’s sales. Black said the department normally sees about six of these every weekend. In nearby Lynnwood, Washington, the local police department saw no such increase in firearm sales. But at least one local gun shop did. Tiffany Teasdale, the co-owner of Lynnwood Gun & Ammunition, said she, too, has seen a sixfold increase in sales over the past two weeks, predominantly from Chinese-American customers. “We’ve had a line of customers before opening Thursday through Sunday, and customers in the store until 10 to 15 minutes after closing.” she said. “We used to sell from 10 to 15 firearms in a weekend. [We sold] 60 firearms just [last] Saturday.” Teasdale said that nearby stores had seen increases as well, and her distributors had run out of 9mm ammunition. “It’s been happening for the last four or five days,” Teasdale said.” A lot of our distributors nationally are saying that all of their warehouses are empty. None of them know why.” So far, police departments and civil rights groups in cities experiencing increased gun sales had received no reports of violent attacks against Asians. The Bellevue Police Department said they hadn’t received a single complaint since the first U.S. case of coronavirus made headlines. Robin Engle, a spokesperson for OneAmerica — a Seattle-based nonprofit focused on immigrant rights — said that while the organization was aware of people avoiding Asian restaurants, it had not heard about any hate crimes in the Seattle area. When told about the reports from gun-store owners, she said, “It is alarming that people are afraid that that can happen to the point that they’re going out and buying guns.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gunnz said: Any update? 450ish backlog as of 930am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
always_an_eagle 165 Posted March 14, 2020 I picked up a new shotgun on thursday and NICS took about 2 hours to process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,083 Posted March 14, 2020 I was picking up a transfer yesterday at GFH, and they didn't get NICS approval in the hour plus that I was there. Luckily, it's not something I need, just a fun plinker. In case anyone is wondering, it was a Ruger Wrangler, my first revolver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_F 5 Posted March 14, 2020 I’m still going waiting in NICS from Wednesday for a transfer through RTSP . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,547 Posted March 15, 2020 BTW, it's NJ's fault for your backups. All my checks have gone through instantly. They weren't prepared the last few days. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_F 5 Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, PK90 said: BTW, it's NJ's fault for your backups. All my checks have gone through instantly. They weren't prepared the last few days. Doesn’t surprise me in the least. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted March 15, 2020 I posted in another thread that I went to go renew my carry permit on Friday and the office was packed, there was a constant flow of people in and out of the sherif’s office. Even with that surge of people I was in and out of there in 30 minutes. I also drove by Tanner’s and they looked swamped!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,462 Posted March 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, carl_g said: I posted in another thread that I went to go renew my carry permit on Friday and the office was packed, there was a constant flow of people in and out of the sherif’s office. Even with that surge of people I was in and out of there in 30 minutes. I also drove by Tanner’s and they looked swamped!! They must all be arming up to protect their stashes of toilet paper! Sheeesh. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, carl_g said: I posted in another thread that I went to go renew my carry permit on Friday and the office was packed, there was a constant flow of people in and out of the sherif’s office. Even with that surge of people I was in and out of there in 30 minutes. I also drove by Tanner’s and they looked swamped!! Tanners has said its experiencing high volume and the line was out the door.... that parking lot sucks btw 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted March 15, 2020 There's two kinds of gun owners in NJ: Those that pour EXPLOSIVES & those that rely on NICS checks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Zeke said: Tanners has said its experiencing high volume and the line was out the door.... that parking lot sucks btw its a small place no need for a HUGE parking lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, carl_g said: its a small place no need for a HUGE parking lot. They do more volume then parking with consistency.. I talked to the manager. Awesome place. What do you think of claytons? 35 minutes ago, Smokin .50 said: There's two kinds of gun owners in NJ: Those that pour EXPLOSIVES & those that rely on NICS checks Pfft, whatever boomer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted March 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Zeke said: What do you think of claytons? I never stepped foot in that place, although every time I drive by there it looks packed. Tanner's, Survival Trail, & Target World are all closer to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,462 Posted March 16, 2020 At 1:18 PM today my FFL says NICS is 700-800 deep, and speculated that if the state shuts down NICS might shut down also. Would NICS personnel be considered non-essential? That's the question. And if they did shut down, for how long? And what would the backlog look like when they came back? I've got one permit to exercise before May 11. Now they've got me wondering if I waited too long. It's not critical, but I'll be pissed anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lakota 342 Posted March 16, 2020 Just a little bit of panic buying. I had a NICs check ran Sat morning, it was in before 10am where they still had 145 in the queue from 3/13 and it took until around 4pm on Sat to come back. I cant believe they are still working on Sat's Nics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted March 16, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 1:40 PM, Zeke said: They do more volume then parking with consistency.. I talked to the manager. Awesome place. What do you think of claytons? Pfft, whatever boomer Kettle callin' the skillet black, eh, lol? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSigfan 217 Posted March 17, 2020 What does everyone think my odds are of NICS coming back before close of business tomorrow. have a permit that I misread the expiration date on...expires tomorrow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted March 17, 2020 Prolly not. They are 700 deep right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted March 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, NJSigfan said: What does everyone think my odds are of NICS coming back before close of business tomorrow. have a permit that I misread the expiration date on...expires tomorrow Hold your beer? ( don’t open it, I’ll hold it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_F 5 Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, NJSigfan said: What does everyone think my odds are of NICS coming back before close of business tomorrow. have a permit that I misread the expiration date on...expires tomorrow I’m still waiting for mine from last Wednesday. I’ve never waited more than a few hours. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
always_an_eagle 165 Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Rick_F said: I’m still waiting for mine from last Wednesday. I’ve never waited more than a few hours. Say what?? That is crazy! 1 hour ago, blksheep said: Prolly not. They are 700 deep right now. When you mean 700 deep, do you mean 700 NICS for NJ or for one gunshop? I am a little confused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Contrvlr 17 Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, always_an_eagle said: Say what?? That is crazy! When you mean 700 deep, do you mean 700 NICS for NJ or for one gunshop? I am a little confused. That would be for the state. And it seems it's only going to get worse , when I left work at 5 pm they were 500 deep , down from 700 this morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 954 Posted March 17, 2020 I would not be surprised if Smurphy puts Non-Essential State personnel on leave, which could mean the NICs unit could (possibly) close. I would hope not, but I would not be surprised........... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
always_an_eagle 165 Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, JT Custom Guns said: I would not be surprised if Smurphy puts Non-Essential State personnel on leave, which could mean the NICs unit could (possibly) close. I would hope not, but I would not be surprised........... Is the NICS civilian personnel or NJSP Troopers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 954 Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, always_an_eagle said: Is the NICS civilian personnel or NJSP Troopers? State (civilian) personnel run by NJSP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris327 30 Posted March 17, 2020 Correct me if I'm wrong but we can still drive to PA and buy a long gun and walk out with it with their check system that i think is much faster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,148 Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, chris327 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but we can still drive to PA and buy a long gun and walk out with it with their check system that i think is much faster. YES! It's your best bet.......For a long gun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites