Zell959 40 Posted May 1, 2020 If so, which one? Also, if you have more than one type, which one you like best & why? Thanks in advance for any feedback. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bighungry618 450 Posted May 1, 2020 They're not that much different from one another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eyeinstine 241 Posted May 1, 2020 Basement with a .22 and a some blocks of thick wood?? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,918 Posted May 1, 2020 I'm waiting for a coolfire trainer to be shipped. I'll let you know if it's any good when I get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amish869 6 Posted May 1, 2020 Mantis is very impressive. check it out. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJSigfan 218 Posted May 1, 2020 2nd for the mantis. Had mine for 2 years and no issues also have the G sight LTP. Not a fan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted May 2, 2020 21 hours ago, eyeinstine said: Basement with a .22 and a some blocks of thick wood?? As kids, we used to shoot bb guns in the basement, using an old fitted sheet hanging from the ceiling as a backstop. The bbs would collect in the bottom for re-use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted May 2, 2020 I have a G-sight in 9mm - AFAIK has the same capabilities as the others at a lower price point. Went to check it on Amazon, I see it's not available at the moment, but might want to keep an eye on it if it comes back in stock: https://www.g-sight.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted May 3, 2020 8 hours ago, W2MC said: As kids, we used to shoot bb guns in the basement, using an old fitted sheet hanging from the ceiling as a backstop. The bbs would collect in the bottom for re-use. Wut like a red rider? we were doing ten pumpers to 12 and using marksman darts going trough as many lawyers of sheet rock we could. i think 3, stuck into the fourth. But I was always an envelope pusher, even as a kid crossman 1200 and the classic pump pistol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted May 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, Zeke said: Wut like a red rider? we were doing ten pumpers to 12 and using marksman darts going trough as many lawyers of sheet rock we could. i think 3, stuck into the fourth. But I was always an envelope pusher, even as a kid crossman 1200 and the classic pump pistol Um....I said BB gun; not marksman darts. And 10 pumps? Not hardly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted May 4, 2020 I made a backstop in our basement using duct seal and some plywood. Stops all of our pellet and BB guns, even at 11 or 12 pumps. My son and I shot last night and had a blast! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted May 5, 2020 Air soft just purchased new one from STI off evike.com. I use a box with front cut open hang rag inside box and plastic bb drops in box bt goes through paper target. I use a coat hanger poked through box to hold rag draped over it clip my target to front of box. Purchased the co2 mags and green gas refillable co2 cartridge the co2 cartridges themselves are little more powerful than green gas mags. No I did not get the john wick version. DVC version. https://www.evike.com/products/12737/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,918 Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 4:40 PM, Mr.Stu said: I'm waiting for a coolfire trainer to be shipped. I'll let you know if it's any good when I get it. It arrived. The cycling of the action is pretty potent - not as much as live fire, but sufficient to move the gun around and activate the slide catch if your thumb is not in the right place! I like it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 9:52 PM, jm1827 said: I made a backstop in our basement using duct seal and some plywood. Stops all of our pellet and BB guns, even at 11 or 12 pumps. My son and I shot last night and had a blast! A 30gal brute garbage can filled with rubber mulch, on its side, will stop real 9mm and .45acp... I find the bullets only about half way through. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shepherd9 215 Posted May 14, 2020 Second on the airsoft practice. Ordered a Glock 19X from Evike and a KWA Radian Model 1. Both green gas with a few spare mags. Should be here this week so I've built a couple of stands for reduced size USPSA targets to set up downstairs. I like the concept of actually shooting projectiles more than the laser trainers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldguysrule649 397 Posted May 14, 2020 Am very interested in getting a Glock airsoft pistol. I only have a spring operated Noname one now that is pretty much just a toy. I do have some I have two questions. 1) CO2 vs green gas: from Tony’s post above, sounds like co2 are as powerful as gg. My preference is co2 if that is the case. Also wondering if breathing in gg in an enclosed space is a health Or a fire risk. 2) Legality: sounds like evike is still shipping to NJ. Wasn’t there a new NJ law passed earlier this year that effectively banned all imitation firearms (eg 1” orange stripe require along its full length, etc.) thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted May 14, 2020 6 hours ago, oldguysrule649 said: Am very interested in getting a Glock airsoft pistol. I only have a spring operated Noname one now that is pretty much just a toy. I do have some I have two questions. 1) CO2 vs green gas: from Tony’s post above, sounds like co2 are as powerful as gg. My preference is co2 if that is the case. Also wondering if breathing in gg in an enclosed space is a health Or a fire risk. 2) Legality: sounds like evike is still shipping to NJ. Wasn’t there a new NJ law passed earlier this year that effectively banned all imitation firearms (eg 1” orange stripe require along its full length, etc.) thanks 1) CO2 is better, way better. More power, more consistent. 2) Honestly, if its an airsoft pistol i would say who cares.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB24 37 Posted February 22, 2022 I have the I-Target. you can get different caliber pistol cartridges as well as .223. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted February 22, 2022 On 5/1/2020 at 11:44 AM, Bighungry618 said: They're not that much different from one another. Dude the coolfire and mantis blackbeard are WAY different than the ones you have to cock the gun every time. Like WAAAAY different. You can then pair them with a video system if you want. They ain't cheap, but they are about as good as you can do. Airsoft isn't bad, but the above allow you to work with what you actually shoot. My main competition guns are a custom 2011 and a p320 x-5 legion. While I can get a 2011 setup that feels similar, it isn't cheap. And I have failed to find an X-frame style airsoft gun. decking out an airsoft AR to be similar to my match ar would be more expensive than buying all the above plus a video system. It may not be worth it depending on one's needs, but it's a significantly different experience than the firing pin activated single shot laser inserts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted February 22, 2022 On 5/1/2020 at 1:50 PM, eyeinstine said: Basement with a .22 and a some blocks of thick wood?? friend of mine did that with "expired" soft body armor as the backstop. customer tole me he tried it with a piece of wood as backstop. was shocked when the bullet penetrated then ricocheted all over the place.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted February 23, 2022 Reviving an old thread... but that's fine... Cuz I actually reviewed the Mantis Laser Academy and Blackbeard.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted March 31, 2022 I got the Mantis Blackbeard and really like it. It's a lot of fun. Makes me want to get an auto-resetting or recoil enabled laser device for my handguns. I currently just have regular laser cartridges for them, but having to rack after pulling the trigger every time is less than ideal for training. Unfortunately recoil enabled resetting laser devices I've seen for handguns are $$$. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted March 31, 2022 On 5/5/2020 at 10:30 AM, Mr.Stu said: It arrived. The cycling of the action is pretty potent - not as much as live fire, but sufficient to move the gun around and activate the slide catch if your thumb is not in the right place! I like it. VID_20200505_102546.mp4 @Mr.Stu how do you like the Coolfire system? How many shots do you get out of one magazine? How many magazines do you get to a bottle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted March 31, 2022 Does anyone have one of the Laser-Ammo Recoil Trainers? Laser Ammo (laser-ammo.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted March 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, ESB said: Does anyone have one of the Laser-Ammo Recoil Trainers? Laser Ammo (laser-ammo.com) So that is a conversion kit for an airsoft pistol? It's basically the same price as a coolfire trainer, which means you get to practice with your actual pistol. Seems like an odd choice for a personal purchase. It makes more sense if you wanted to set up a simulator range or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted March 31, 2022 Actually laser-ammo ends up being a lot cheaper than coolfire. You can get a laser-ammo Glock for ~$400 and Coolfire Glock kit starts at $500 with laser. You could also use it as an airsoft pistol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted March 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, ESB said: Actually laser-ammo ends up being a lot cheaper than coolfire. You can get a laser-ammo Glock for ~$400 and Coolfire Glock kit starts at $500 with laser. You could also use it as an airsoft pistol. I paid $450 for my p320 x-5 legion setup. A g34 kit is $520 with a bottle and $490 without currently. midway discounts the g17 equivalent. How close do you want your training gear to be to the real thing? Is $87 a big enough delta to warrant a difference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted April 4, 2022 I've got a Gen 3 G17. The conversion isn't going to feel exactly like the real thing, but close enough. The difference between the G17 conversion and the Laser-Ammo G17 airsoft would be less than the feel difference between the conversion and the real thing. I would think Green Gas vs C02 would make more of a difference since CO2 recoils harder. I guess the difference would be I would have to outfit the laser-ammo with the same optic on my real G17 which then puts it at around the same cost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted May 20, 2022 https://coolfiretrainer.com/ has a $25 discount code. HELLOCFT22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 247 Posted May 27, 2022 On 5/5/2020 at 10:30 AM, Mr.Stu said: It arrived. The cycling of the action is pretty potent - not as much as live fire, but sufficient to move the gun around and activate the slide catch if your thumb is not in the right place! I like it VID_20200505_102546.mp4 Are you using the CoolFire with a laser trainer app? With the recoil, it makes a 4" line instead of a quick red dot, making it hard for the laser trainer app to accurately detect where I shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites