ChrisJM981 924 Posted June 15, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 10:10 PM, PK90 said: They earn that "priviledge" by putting their lives on the line for 20+ years. 20 years for a pension? Everyone else works about 50 years. What a bunch of slackers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted June 15, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 10:10 PM, PK90 said: They earn that "priviledge" by putting their lives on the line for 20+ years. I appreciate what the police do for us and that they put themselves in dangerous situations. But...police occupational mortality rates are roughly 1/7 that of the logging industry 1/6 that of commercial fishing 1/4 that of commercial pilots 1/3 that of roofers 1/2 that of garbage collectors 1/2 that of iron workers 1/2 that of truck drivers 1/2 that of farmers etc. etc. None of those groups get any special privileges when they retire. Not that I agree that the right to carry is a privilege. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted June 15, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 10:31 PM, Underdog said: You should be ashamed of yourself. Clearly conditioned thinking that escaped NJ... Their and their family's safety is no more important than mine and my family's, and more importantly, they don't have special privileges over others, especially with a guaranteed right that is being obstructed by an overzealous and tyrannically motivated State (and in which heaven forbid they didn't abuse some of the power granted to them, as well). Neither current cops on duty nor current off-duty cops nor retired law enforcement should have (or support the dualistic) privilege over the people they work/worked for. They shouldn't get special privileges, especially to defend Statist Politicians, and especially if those Politicians, with the corrupt and fake media as cover, are going to disenfranchise the people of their natural right to self defense. They didn't earn shit, and they chose that profession. They got paid for it and earned an ambitious pension at the burden of the tax payers, their employers, for their service while those they work for and are suppose to protect largely don't have that safety net. And I presume many will move out of state and spend their money elsewhere and enjoy freedoms that this corrupt and egregious bankrupt state won't allow. Rethink your stance. what he said. simplified........it's everyone, or no one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,774 Posted June 15, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 10:57 PM, NJ_Sig said: Do I think that retired LEOs should have privileges above us, no, not really, but in all reality they have put away baddies and certainly run the risk of running into those they put away after they have been releasd from jail. I personally know several LEOs both active and retired that this has happened to. For this reason I feel they should be allowed to carry. Of course as for the rest of us I strongly believe that we also have the right to carry, but we live in a tyrannical state and barring a miracle that will never likely be And they were well compensated for that. Now they are regular people.live by the laws they enforced at one time. No carve outs. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted June 15, 2020 No more special class bullshit. Enough already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites