jm1827 284 Posted May 20, 2020 I need to ask a potentially stupid question. Since when can the executive branch of government pass laws? Isn't the ability to draft and approve laws reserved to the legislative branch of government? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,760 Posted May 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, father-of-three said: I can't remember which forum I saw it on, but it may have been due to declining to give identification, which may not be necessary depending on circumstances, but I could see an irritated officer possibly pushing limits back a bit. NOT TRUE! They asked his name and he asked WHY, then they handcuffed him, never asked for ID! Little weenies, just being obedient to Gov Bucky Beaver. New uniforms coming tomorrow, featuring BROWN Shirts and really cool arm bands! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 20, 2020 An American citizen was arrested in New Jersey for "violating" the "stay at home order" and working out. News story on the arrest: https://mrgunsngear.org/3bJSBxO 1776 United shirts: (use code Mrgunsngear for 20% off): http://bit.ly/2rCn5PW Nine Line Apparel shirts: (discou... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 235 Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Downtownv said: NOT TRUE! They asked his name and he asked WHY, then they handcuffed him, never asked for ID! Little weenies, just being obedient to Gov Bucky Beaver. New uniforms coming tomorrow, featuring BROWN Shirts and really cool arm bands! https://www.fox29.com/news/bellmawr-gym-reopens-again-tuesday-owners-receive-second-citation If there is an article that is less ambiguous than this one, please share. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted May 20, 2020 The guy wearing the "thin blue line" tshirt should have taken it off and stepped on it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted May 20, 2020 For those interested in first hand account. As in "the guy" http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/4620053074 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,760 Posted May 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, PeteF said: For those interested in first hand account. As in "the guy" http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/4620053074 Hey I resemble some of those remarks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WP22 1,558 Posted May 20, 2020 They literally waived in the part timer to make the arrest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,648 Posted May 20, 2020 “In Bellmawr, New Jersey, for the third day in a row, the owners of Atilis Gym received summons when they opened their business defying the coronavirus order. The state of New Jersey may be exploring options within the health department's jurisdiction to close the business. "There are additional actions that we are looking into that fall under her authority as to what we could do with the business," said Colonel Pat Callahan of the New Jersey State Police.“ https://6abc.com/area-businesses-reopen-defying-executive-orders-/6199477/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,760 Posted May 20, 2020 Callahan, is the SS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted May 21, 2020 On Reddit there is a thread stating the owner of the gym served 5 years for vehicular homicide. https://www.nj.com/south/2008/06/mount_laurel_man_sentenced_to.html Edit: Apparently it is true. I won't support that piece of garbage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, ChrisJM981 said: On Reddit there is a thread stating the owner of the gym served 5 years for vehicular homicide. https://www.nj.com/south/2008/06/mount_laurel_man_sentenced_to.html Edit: Apparently it is true. I won't support that piece of garbage. This just goes to show you that your past will always haunt you. And that your enemies will use it against you. Now, having said that, I do not like alcoholics. I despise drunk drivers. So, this is me saying goodbye to this thread. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted May 21, 2020 Just reported that the gym was shut down. No details yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,760 Posted May 21, 2020 This is who we are fighting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted May 21, 2020 time to harass utility workers. and ray, while I understand your aversion, there will never be a Snow White clean cause or person to support. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted May 21, 2020 What is an Embargo? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SIGMan Freud 93 Posted May 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, voyager9 said: What is an Embargo? In this case, it's the only orange notice the dipshitz in the Dept. of Health had in their desks to try to scare people. It's supposed to be used to hold goods or livestock that may be altered, counterfeit or dangerous before they move further in the supply chain. It's bogus in this case. Funny how the gym's sewage line got blocked. Don't suppose any of the storm troopers had to use the restroom and flushed some Quickset down there? "You've got a nice gym here. Be a shame if anything happened to it." I remember when the government fought the mob. Now it is the mob. And how about the Big Brother camera they put up to photograph all the supporters and get their license plates? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenday 323 Posted May 21, 2020 9 hours ago, ChrisJM981 said: On Reddit there is a thread stating the owner of the gym served 5 years for vehicular homicide. https://www.nj.com/south/2008/06/mount_laurel_man_sentenced_to.html Edit: Apparently it is true. I won't support that piece of garbage. It is true. He drove shitfaced and killed a 19 year old. Quite a few of my bowling friends were friends with Kevin (the deceased). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Sota said: time to harass utility workers. and ray, while I understand your aversion, there will never be a Snow White clean cause or person to support. When you kill someone BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN CALLUS then it's hard for me to get behind you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted May 22, 2020 11 hours ago, SIGMan Freud said: In this case, it's the only orange notice the dipshitz in the Dept. of Health had in their desks to try to scare people. It's supposed to be used to hold goods or livestock that may be altered, counterfeit or dangerous before they move further in the supply chain. It's bogus in this case. That’s what I thought. I couldn’t fathom a context where Embargo made sense for the county to issue a business. It’s like they found an orange sticker and made shit up. 6 hours ago, Ray Ray said: When you kill someone BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN CALLUS then it's hard for me to get behind you. There have been a lot of messages where the messenger was a POS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ_Sig 34 Posted May 22, 2020 https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/nj-gym-owner-who-defied-covid-19-mandate-speaks-out-about-2007-drunken-driving-crash/article_4af2d980-72c9-5c81-bc7a-774008d4ffb8.html Different slant in todays paper Smith said in the video he’s been public about the fatal accident and accepts full responsibility, adding “for anybody out there who hates me, I think you are completely justified in doing so.” But he wanted to “set the details straight,” he said in the video, recounting how in April 2007 he woke up after a night of drinking in his dorm room, got in his car “and moments later, I was the sole cause of a motor vehicle accident that took the life of a young man named Kevin.” Smith was 20 at the time, he said, and claims he had no idea alcohol was present in his system. Story was Ian thought he slept it off but evidently he was wrong. Supposedly he didn’t drive right after hammering beers, but went to sleep, woke up and drove. Doesn’t make anything right or less tragic. Guess only he knows if that’s true or not. Either way it’s a horrible tragic event for all involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,129 Posted May 22, 2020 The Glenn Beck (The Blaze) interview I watched earlier, Ian was on and said that the plumbing company he called in to clear to blockage the other night found that an entire industrial size roll of paper towel had been flushed down a toilet. Now with it being members and staff only in the place, and Ian having said that a lot of local leos were members, it raised the question in my mind about the PD turning one of their officers who was a gym member and having him sabotage the place so they could bring in the health dept and shut it down. Talk about official misconduct! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,648 Posted May 22, 2020 23 hours ago, Ray Ray said: This just goes to show you that your past will always haunt you. And that your enemies will use it against you. Now, having said that, I do not like alcoholics. I despise drunk drivers. So, this is me saying goodbye to this thread. I don’t think this is about him as a person. This is about the principal of .gov overreach. I’ll grant you his prior history is pretty fucked up, but his choosing to take a stance against the govt has nothing to do with that. 1 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ_Sig 34 Posted May 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: I don’t think this is about him as a person. This is about the principal of .gov overreach. I’ll grant you his prior history is pretty fucked up, but his choosing to take a stance against the govt has nothing to do with that. Totally agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisS 31 Posted May 22, 2020 I’m interested to see if the gym is in on the “sabotage”. They took PPP money, created a GFM, publicized everything they were doing, and once they opened and didn’t get the response they were looking for, something new popped up. Using a microphone with white supremacist decals is in bad taste. “It’s not mine, I swear!” is an easy alibi but whatever... There are also details out there that the fatal accident he caused was a result of him blowing multiple stop signs and after the accident he stashed drug paraphernalia. It must be nice to have a rich daddy when you fuck up like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deerpark 83 Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 8:46 AM, SIGMan Freud said: In this case, it's the only orange notice the dipshitz in the Dept. of Health had in their desks to try to scare people. It's supposed to be used to hold goods or livestock that may be altered, counterfeit or dangerous before they move further in the supply chain. It's bogus in this case. Funny how the gym's sewage line got blocked. Don't suppose any of the storm troopers had to use the restroom and flushed some Quickset down there? "You've got a nice gym here. Be a shame if anything happened to it." I remember when the government fought the mob. Now it is the mob. And how about the Big Brother camera they put up to photograph all the supporters and get their license plates? Where the hell is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deerpark 83 Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 11:27 AM, PeteF said: For those interested in first hand account. As in "the guy" http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/4620053074 He says they charged him with obstruction. Obstruction of what? Slave: "Why are you charging me with obstruction?" Rights Infringement Officer ("RIO"): "Because you are obstructing our ability to arrest you". Slave: "But why were you arresting me in the first place?" RIO: "How the hell would I know?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,129 Posted May 22, 2020 The PD's mobile camera is in the parking lot where the gym is located, along with about a dozen (some open, some not) other businesses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,760 Posted May 22, 2020 That camera is on private property and the landlord has every right to order it off his lot. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deerpark 83 Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 8:36 PM, jm1827 said: I need to ask a potentially stupid question. Since when can the executive branch of government pass laws? Isn't the ability to draft and approve laws reserved to the legislative branch of government? I realize that youre asking a rhetorical question but I still wanted to chime in, lol. "These people" ie government essentially give themselves authority, which is pretty laughable. Theres a law making branch of government but even they cannot pass laws which violate the Constitution. And then there are the courts which over the decades have rubber stamped these illegal, unlawful, unconstitutional power grabs. Some people will defend the courts but we know that they are political bodies. Its no coincidence that the Ninth Circus almost without exception has a Left leaning agenda ie "interpretation". And theres no shortage of blatantly unconstitutional decisions by the "Supreme" court. When government along with the courts no longer abide by the Constitution, they are acting unlawfully and from that point have lost any legitimate authority that they may have had. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites