It seems that many here agree that training is good, but some object to the mandatory part.
Now without raffling anyone's feathers, the constitution doesn't say that personal ownership without training is granted. It mentions Militia, which one could argue that in a Militia training is implied as part of what makes a Militia, a militia.
So without trying to belittle the constitution most of what people are saying here is an interpretation of a very general notion, so sticking to the most general interpretation doesn't make it necessarily the right one.
As to the whole "right" concept. If we have to get a permit and pay for the gun and permit is it really a right?
Voting is a right and it is free, if you are trying to equate gun ownership to voting, should that be free as well?
I would argue that in a capitalistic society anything you have to pay for is not a right, it is a privilege : )
Tick Tock, Tick TocK... just another advanced warning that it's coming.... See the Bolded quote below:
NEW JERSEY – Gov. Phil Murphy says plans to reopen more of New Jersey's economy – particularly the expansion of indoor dining – are in a "holding pattern" now that the second wave of the coronavirus is here.
"We are in a holding pattern," Murphy said on Thursday. "I think it would be irresponsible to do otherwise."
Murphy said "if we have to shut things down, we will" but, right now, New Jersey is taking a "scalpel" approach to fixing outbreaks. He noted that Newark took shut-down steps to deal with its local outbreaks.
"Everything is on the table," he said.
All a dusting of snow in nj means is that murphy will deploy the entire DOT maintenance crew and contractors to spread enough salt for a 1/4 inch dusting to make state roads look like the Bonneville Salt Flats. So get ready to wash under your vehicles to prevent the salt from eating away at your undercarriage(s) and brake lines
Not sure if this is worth starting a separate thread, but for those who have Kel-tec Sub 2000, curious at what height you have your optic mounted? I'm currently using the MCARBO mount with a riser, and it seems to work OK. But I'm wondering if others have it lower for a co-witness with the iron sights? I'm thinking the rear sight might get in the way, and one might need to get into contortions to get low enough to see it (as with the iron sights).