JeepGunner 109 Posted August 28, 2020 Hello Everyone, I'd like to introduce myself to the njgunforums community. I am currently awaiting my FID; and expect to have it in the next few weeks or so. I have prior firearms training and experience as I was a LEO in another state for a short time (but left for greener money pastures and less potential civil or criminal headaches). I am strong supporter of good cops everywhere; but not of a police state. I believe in the Constitution and honor the memories of all Americans that died so that we may live free and pursue our dreams and happiness. Needless to say, the events over the past 1/2 year have caused me to reassess having a firearm in the home for protection so I've only recently applied for my FID even though I been a NJ resident for a long time. I would to take this opportunity to thank everyone here that contributes to the forums. I know, like myself, there are plenty of lurkers that have learned a ton from the experienced members. NJ is not an easy state to navigate the gun laws in, that is for sure. I do have a question that hopefully someone can answer. As most know, the gun stores are very limited in their offerings of guns and ammo due to the panic buying that has been happening across the country. I would not be adverse to picking up a used rifle or shotgun from another NJ resident. I read the FAQ (https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/29389-read-before-posting-nj-gun-law-faq/ ) and noted that the requirements for Long gun purchases as by: ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(4) Out-of-state resident = must be transferred through ............a. NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID or ............b. Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID In particular to situation 2, (long gun transaction between 2 NJ residents) it doesn't seem to need to go through a NJ FFL. However, in all the WTS ads I see on here, the seller states that the transaction needs to go through an FFL. What am I missing? Was the law changed or are sellers worried about direct sales? Once again, than you all. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted August 28, 2020 Our great Governor Murphy is resposible — law was changed right when he took office — no more Face to Face sales in NJ for us — must go thru FFL Immediate family members and active LEO are exempted from the FFL requirement 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepGunner 109 Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, Heavyopp said: Our great Governor Murphy is resposible — law was changed right when he took office — no more Face to Face sales in NJ for us — must go thru FFL Immediate family members active LEO are exempted from the FFL requirement Thank you for the quick response! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted August 28, 2020 Welcome! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted August 28, 2020 Porkroll or Taylor ham? and welcome here 2 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 1,089 Posted August 29, 2020 9 hours ago, StarGazer said: Hello Everyone, I do have a question that hopefully someone can answer. As most know, the gun stores are very limited in their offerings of guns and ammo due to the panic buying that has been happening across the country. Once again, than you all. AR-15 rifles can still be found online although prices are at premium these days. Try searching https://www.gunbroker.com or https://gun.deals Have it shipped to http://www.monmoutharms.com for the transfer and compliance work. If I was in the market right now I'd grab this Bushmaster M4 LE trade-in. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877704787 Excellent condition for a trade in: Side sling swivel, light, detachable carry handle, chrome lined M4 barrel, can't believe this hasn't sold yet. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted August 29, 2020 Oops. Time to edit that thread. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepGunner 109 Posted August 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Bomber said: AR-15 rifles can still be found online although prices are at premium these days. Try searching https://www.gunbroker.com or https://gun.deals Have it shipped to http://www.monmoutharms.com for the transfer and compliance work. If I was in the market right now I'd grab this Bushmaster M4 LE trade-in. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877704787 Excellent condition for a trade in: Side sling swivel, light, detachable carry handle, chrome lined M4 barrel, can't believe this hasn't sold yet. Thanks for the info and links! If I had the FID in hands, I would strongly be considering the Bushmaster at that price. It's a great deal. I do have concern about the availability of 5.56 ammo. It seems to not be available anywhere I've looked. I was leaning toward a .308 rifle, such as a SA Socom M1A1 as my first purchase as that ammo is a little easier to find. That being said, I am definitely picking up an AR15 as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted August 29, 2020 11 hours ago, PK90 said: Oops. Time to edit that thread. Edit - Done. LMK if any other changes need to be made. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 1,089 Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 10:19 AM, StarGazer said: Thanks for the info and links! If I had the FID in hands, I would strongly be considering the Bushmaster at that price. It's a great deal. I do have concern about the availability of 5.56 ammo. It seems to not be available anywhere I've looked. I was leaning toward a .308 rifle, such as a SA Socom M1A1 as my first purchase as that ammo is a little easier to find. That being said, I am definitely picking up an AR15 as well. The FID in hand is not necessary to order firearms online. The item gets shipped to an FFL who retains possession until the transfer. Simply complete the purchase online, item is shipped to your FFL who then holds it until your paper work is ready to complete the transfer/NICS process. (Note; some online sellers may ask for a copy of your FID, its not required and I would avoid them). I recommended Monmouth Arms, because they will hold online purchases free of charge I believe and do the compliance work;. One stop shopping. As for 5.56mm ammo it can be had, although prices are way up. This seller usually has a good supply and doesn't hassle N.J. buyers https://www.gunbroker.com/item/877472498 If you sign up at GB a completed item a search can be done for final sales prices 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted September 1, 2020 Welcome! You might find yourself astonished how long it takes to get paperwork processed in NJ. It was bad when times were good. Now its really special. Good luck! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepGunner 109 Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Handyman said: Welcome! You might find yourself astonished how long it takes to get paperwork processed in NJ. It was bad when times were good. Now its really special. Good luck! Thanks. Yes, I am already 2 months in. The way things are going, I may wind up voting with my feet and leaving the state before I get my FID. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabesdad 24 Posted September 15, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 11:37 PM, StarGazer said: Thanks. Yes, I am already 2 months in. The way things are going, I may wind up voting with my feet and leaving the state before I get my FID. Took me close to 6 months during the good times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC_68Westy 1,024 Posted September 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Gabesdad said: Took me close to 6 months during the good times. What are these "good times" of which you speak? NJ hasn't had "good times" for many decades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabesdad 24 Posted September 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, JC_68Westy said: What are these "good times" of which you speak? NJ hasn't had "good times" for many decades. Ha! Never been a good time here in Jersey. But meant the good times being pre 2020 world has gone stupid era. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites