revenger 473 Posted September 7, 2020 https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/nra-supports-retired-law-enforcement-officers-right-carry/#axzz6XMUY2eaC So this is the case the nra and the nj affiliate takes on. defending the people who dont defend us. how about they try for everyones rights Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted September 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, revenger said: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/nra-supports-retired-law-enforcement-officers-right-carry/#axzz6XMUY2eaC So this is the case the nra and the nj affiliate takes on. defending the people who dont defend us. how about they try for everyones rights whatever. they’re retired so they’re civilians now. They should be treated exactly the way we are all being treated. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted September 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, revenger said: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/nra-supports-retired-law-enforcement-officers-right-carry/#axzz6XMUY2eaC So this is the case the nra and the nj affiliate takes on. defending the people who dont defend us. how about they try for everyones rights Putting aside any distaste for retired Leo and carry, they only filed a amicus brief which is basically just cheerleading. ANJRPC has done this for other 2A cases around the country too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted October 6, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 9:15 AM, revenger said: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/nra-supports-retired-law-enforcement-officers-right-carry/#axzz6XMUY2eaC So this is the case the nra and the nj affiliate takes on. defending the people who dont defend us. how about they try for everyones rights im not the biggest NRA fan but you do realize they constantly have lawsuits they are funding in NJ right? they even currently have a case challenging the change from 15 to 10rds that was petitioned for en banc hearing at the district court of appeals. once it wins or loses there, it'll be appealed to the Supreme Court. so it's hardly like they do "nothing" for the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted October 6, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 9:42 AM, tommy3rd said: whatever. they’re retired so they’re civilians now. They should be treated exactly the way we are all being treated. always were civilians, not sure why people don't understand this. They are civilians, take a civil test, follow civil direction, are not federal gov't employees belonging to any military branch. Civilians! but yes I agree, no degree of difference in my view 15 minutes ago, n4p226r said: im not the biggest NRA fan but you do realize they constantly have lawsuits they are funding in NJ right? they even currently have a case challenging the change from 15 to 10rds that was petitioned for en banc hearing at the district court of appeals. once it wins or loses there, it'll be appealed to the Supreme Court. so it's hardly like they do "nothing" for the rest of us. good to know, as a lifetime member who refuses to send in another cent, I feel like they don't care as I've not seen anything like this so again, good to know 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted October 6, 2020 I joined GOA and Garand Collectors Association (had to...) lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted January 11, 2021 Ahhhh, isn't this cute. The NRA actually thinks we need to stay engaged in elections and the legislative process. Apparently, they've been asleep under their desks since Nov. 3rd.... NRA @NRA On Friday, Biden pledged to DEFEAT THE NRA. Biden wants to ban our semi-auto rifles, tax our guns/mags & more. He knows the only thing standing in his way to DISMANTLE THE 2ND AMENDMENT is NRA. Gun owners must stay vigilant & be engaged in elections and the legislative process. 6:29 PM · Jan 10, 2021 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted January 11, 2021 I really believe they are trying to push towards violence. I don't think it's avoidable to be honest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted January 11, 2021 I think there is still a role for the NRA to play. We don’t want them “dismantled”. It would give the democrats another “we did it!” moment. More importantly even in its current form the NRA is the tank, receiving and absorbing all the damage while other orgs like GOA FPC, etc go on offense. NRA-ILa and local branches are also continuing to put up a fight. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted January 11, 2021 need the NRA, anyone that says otherwise is a moron 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted January 11, 2021 CANT AND WON'T BACK THEM ON THIS. either everyone can carry or no one can carry(of course we all know it SHOULD be everyone)_ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper 6,372 Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, RUTGERS95 said: need the NRA, anyone that says otherwise is a moron Why, so Wayne can get some new Italian suits? Honestly, what positive items have they been able to get done the last 4 years? They certainly haven't done anything for us here in the People's Republic of NJ. They talk a really good game, but those words get the 2A community nowhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marlintag 223 Posted January 11, 2021 If my life does not matter enough to the people and state of NJ to have the effective means of protection, then why should I care about those who are given special privilege's because of their occupation? Why do their lives matter more than me and my family? I personally hope they lose the case and end up as defenseless as we are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted January 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, marlintag said: If my life does not matter enough to the people and state of NJ to have the effective means of protection, then why should I care about those who are given special privilege's because of their occupation? Why do their lives matter more than me and my family? I personally hope they lose the case and end up as defenseless as we are. Bingo 2 classes of citizens Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Sniper said: Why, so Wayne can get some new Italian suits? Honestly, what positive items have they been able to get done the last 4 years? They certainly haven't done anything for us here in the People's Republic of NJ. They talk a really good game, but those words get the 2A community nowhere. it's more than that and you know it. I now only donate to GOA and I recommend everyone do the same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdF 323 Posted January 12, 2021 I joined the NRA because the closest range to my home requires it. But, until they get their house cleaned up, they don't get another penny. The NRA is a big sponge that absorbs money AND takes the brunt of the government attention. We, the voting, Second Amendment supporting, gun owning, citizens are the ones responsible for our rights. We can't remain quiet. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtors 333 Posted January 12, 2021 Until they truly get serious, I am done with the NRA as well. Any money I donate will go to FPC. Lawsuits, not suits... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted January 12, 2021 On 9/7/2020 at 10:14 AM, siderman said: Putting aside any distaste for retired Leo and carry, they only filed a amicus brief which is basically just cheerleading. ANJRPC has done this for other 2A cases around the country too. I'm quoting this because this thread had jetted off into another direction, but if you're commenting on the ORIGINAL topic, I think this comment above really summed it up. This was NOT an NRA/ANJRPC "lawsuit". They filed an amicus brief only - an entirely different, often narrowly focused, and very low-cost proposition (I mention cost because it's not something that sucks up a lot of member donations). And as Siderman pointed out, they do this for OTHER groups, too, around the country - most often non-LEO groups. Whatever you think of the NRA - good, bad, or indifferent - facts matter... and a lawsuit is wholly different than an amicus brief and doesn't necessarily reflect the totality of the filer's position. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites