EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 19, 2020 Hey guys, I was talking with this guy about wanting to go hunting next year, and he told me that I may not be allowed to hint in NJ with a tactical (pistol grip) shotgun. Bringing the question here, is it or not allowed? Is there a list of prohibited guns to use for hunting? Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC_68Westy 1,024 Posted November 19, 2020 You can hunt with a pistol grip on a pump shotgun in NJ. Many shotguns set up for turkey have pistol grips. I personally do not like pistol grips on hunting shotguns, but that is just preference. I take it that your shotgun is a pump? If so, then hunt with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 19, 2020 Yes is a pump action 12G, thank you for the response, ill start working on the safety course and permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC_68Westy 1,024 Posted November 19, 2020 The only thing you would need to do it plug the magazine to only allow 2 shells in the tube. These can be purchased cheap or you can cut a wooden dowel and stick it in the tube behind the follower. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 19, 2020 Now that is an important piece of information, thank you again!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaddyNick 406 Posted November 20, 2020 The evil gun features listed in the assault weapon ban only applies to semi automatic firearms. With your pump gun you're free to do as you please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 20, 2020 Nice to know that, but so can I go hunting or not with my "other" firearm?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,871 Posted November 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, EVANGELIONHD said: Nice to know that, but so can I go hunting or not with my "other" firearm?? Not by the NJ definition. For the purpose of hunting in New Jersey, firearms refer to a shotgun, muzzleloader (rifled or smoothbore), air gun and modern rifle. An other firearm is not mentioned there so, no, I would not hunt with one. There's really no ethical way to do that either. Shockwave shotgun type others are too short barreled and will not ethically dispatch of a bird. You could use a .223 AR type for coyote/fox/woodchuck, but the NJ hunting regulations specifically state rifles. http://www.eregulations.com/newjersey/hunting/general-hunting-regulations/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Hunter 28 Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, EVANGELIONHD said: Nice to know that, but so can I go hunting or not with my "other" firearm?? “Shotgun” is defined as a shoulder-fired weapon in NJ. N.J.S. 2C:39-1n. Defines “Shotgun” as follows: "Shotgun" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shots or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, or any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder which does not fire fixed ammunition." NJ game regs. says a “shotgun” is legal to hunt with with some parameters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 20, 2020 Just reading the rules and regulations found this line... Rimfire and centerfire rifles are not legal to hunt deer. Im so confused now, i have a .22 rimfire and the .223 center fire but so I can hunt deer only with shotgun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted November 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, EVANGELIONHD said: Just reading the rules and regulations found this line... Rimfire and centerfire rifles are not legal to hunt deer. Im so confused now, i have a .22 rimfire and the .223 center fire but so I can hunt deer only with shotgun? You can only hunt deer with slugs in NJ. I'm not sure about the specifics so I'll let someone else more knowledgeable chime in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, EVANGELIONHD said: Just reading the rules and regulations found this line... Rimfire and centerfire rifles are not legal to hunt deer. Im so confused now, i have a .22 rimfire and the .223 center fire but so I can hunt deer only with shotgun? https://casetext.com/regulation/new-jersey-administrative-code/title-7-environmental-protection/chapter-25-division-of-fish-and-wildlife-rules/subchapter-5-2017-2018-game-code/section-725-523-firearms-and-missiles-etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,871 Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, EVANGELIONHD said: Just reading the rules and regulations found this line... Rimfire and centerfire rifles are not legal to hunt deer. Im so confused now, i have a .22 rimfire and the .223 center fire but so I can hunt deer only with shotgun? Shotgun slugs and buckshot. .22 Rimfire and .223 can be used for some other game (Coyote, Fox, Woodchuck) - the rules are very strict and precise. .223's not a great caliber for Deer anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaddyNick 406 Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, EVANGELIONHD said: Just reading the rules and regulations found this line... Rimfire and centerfire rifles are not legal to hunt deer. Im so confused now, i have a .22 rimfire and the .223 center fire but so I can hunt deer only with shotgun? You can hunt deer with bow(recurve, longbow, compound), crossbow, muzzleloader, shotgun ( buckshot and/or slugs). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 20, 2020 Thank you all that chip in with replies, and those links basically all the info that I need is right there. Thank you guys!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 10:47 AM, Krdshrk said: .223's not a great caliber for Deer anyway. 34 out of 50 states authorize .22 caliber centerfire cartridges legal for deer hunting. Many meet the minimum of ft.-lbs. in energy for deer. Are they ideal for deer? In my opinion; no. Would you hunt deer with a .22 Hornet? Mmmmm, no. But a .22-250, .220 Swift, .22 Nosler, .224 Valkyrie, and defunct .225 Winchester with the right bullet in the right twist barrel can be the ticket in the hands of a competent shooter being selective with shot placement. Unfortunately, all those variables need to be met in order to be successful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JC_68Westy 1,024 Posted November 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Parker said: 34 out of 50 states authorize .22 caliber centerfire cartridges legal for deer hunting. Many meet the minimum of ft.-lbs. in energy for deer. Are they ideal for deer? In my opinion; no. Would you hunt deer with a .22 Hornet? Mmmmm, no. But a .22-250, .220 Swift, .22 Nosler, .224 Valkyrie, and defunct .225 Winchester with the right bullet in the right twist barrel can be the ticket in the hands of a competent shooter being selective with shot placement. Unfortunately, all those variables need to be met in order to be successful. I personally like .and hunt deer with 270, 30-30, .308, .30--06, 44 mag, and 450 Bushmaster. We are required to use a minimum of .23 caliber in VA. I am not sure about .223 for deer. Can they kill a deer, yes, but so can a 22LR. The only bullet I would use with a .223 for deer would be something like a Barnes TSX solid copper bullet. I like a slower big bullet for deer. My cleanest kills have been with bigger slower bullets. I would choose a modern inline muzzleloader over a .223 every time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 10:47 AM, Krdshrk said: Shotgun slugs and buckshot. .22 Rimfire and .223 can be used for some other game (Coyote, Fox, Woodchuck) - the rules are very strict and precise. .223's not a great caliber for Deer anyway. Another thing to remember (in NJ) - If you are hunting with slugs, your shotgun MUST have rifle-type sights installed. Just a bead at the muzzle (standard shotgun configuration) is not legal for slug hunting. You can just go with the bead at the muzzle for buckshot. It sounds like you're coming in with hunting experience from another state. New Jersey hunting is a little different. You REALLY need to read the 2020 Hunting and Trapping digest - it covers all of these topics. You can find it in most places that sell hunting licenses, or read it on-line here: https://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2020/dighnt20.pdf 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVANGELIONHD 2 Posted November 23, 2020 Hey thank you all for the tips, and yes I'll be using rifle slug and yes my shotgun have rifle sights, is this one... https://dickinsonarms.com/xx3-tacticalpumpaction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites