Have a chance to get a deal on a Tavor. Are they worth it? How much better than building a higher end AR? Are they worth the price?

In my opinion you Can't really compare a tavor to a high end ar ..... It's more like a jersey "sbr" ....I had one and had no issues with it at all .... In my opinion it did feel kinda cheap being all plastic externally .... And initially the caliber conversions were to be reasonable and quick.... But as it turned out they were neither and they dropped a couple of the initial calibers slated .....not sure if they are worth the suggested list but I'd buy another for a GOOD deal lol

I have a soft spot for bullpup rifles. I don't have a Tavor but they intrigue me. My MSAR has been great but now that Microtech is out of the rifle business, I may just need to pick up a Tavor to satisfy my bulpup affliction with a weapon platform that has some commercial support.

 

Like PJD stated they are great as legal SBR's. There are some drawbacks, but they aren't deal breakers when viewed against thier advantages.

 

I have an MSAR with a 16" barrel and it is more compact than my issued Colt Commando with 11.5" barrel.

 

Keep in mind that the manual of arms on a bulpup is very different and most manipulations a take longer than on an AR platform. Because if that it's hard to compare the two platforms as apples to apples.

I think thats what is making me hesitant. The manual of arms. I never really thought it was a big deal until i got a PPQ. Was shooting it a lot and got used to the paddle release. Went to do quals at work and found myself looking for the paddle realease on my glock 19. Took a little bit to revert back to the muscle memory for my 19.

Just get it bro! If you don't like it, I'll buy it. I've wanted one for a while now. Just a really cool unique rifle.

If you like it and it feels good on the shoulder it's probably worth it.  If you are thinking about getting it because it looks cool it probably isn't.

My advice....BUY BUY BUY.  Buy everything.

I have one with the mepro sight. Yeah its cool Its different But not to thrilled with it For a close quarters rifle its great. But for at the range. Ar definitely. I dont shoot mine much. Give me coe and take it for a few weeks. I wont sell it. I like to hoard. Offers out there. If i do the idpa at rtsp may 4. Ill bring it with me if you want to have your hand at it.

Hoarding is my problem as well. Usually if i dont have it i want it. I guess its something that should be in my collection, especially at their LE pricing

Hey. Offers open. Its a 2k decision.

It does NOT feel cheap at all. It's nothing like an AR. Shoulder one and you will be buying one.

I have one and I love it. I put the PWS FSC on it and that barrel does not move. LE pricing is just around 1500 so how could I turn that down. I agree with you that it is a totally different OP system but its not hard to get used to. Just shoulder the AR then pick up a Tavor and you will know what I am talking bout. The AR will feel extremely front heavy compared to the Tavor which you can shoulder seemingly forever.

Try and shoot one first. I had the chance to fire one the other day, a guy at the range i belong to had just bought one from Bobs. Im only speaking for myself but i couldn't be more unimpressed by any firearm I've ever shot. The trigger felt like it had an inch of travel and it also felt like a 25lb pull weight. I had a 10 round mag and only shot 3 rounds before i handed it back and said thanks. To each his own maybe you will love it. 

The heavy and gritty trigger is inherent to the bullpup design and is one of the biggest detractors from the platform.

 

If you think about where the trigger is located and the distance between where the trigger is and where the hammer is, the crappy trigger makes sense.

 

I picked up a trigger upgrade from 20/20 for my MSAR. It now feels like it has a Geissele SSA in there. I was pleasantly surprised.

 

I am pretty sure that there are aftermarket Tavor triggers as well. It just sucks to pay $250 for a trigger in a brand new rifle that set you back $1500.

Personally I say spend the money on ammo and shoot what you have. I don't like bullpups, and I dislike the Tavor profoundly, but that is my taste.

heres a review

 

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/06/02/iwi-tavor-vs-kel-tec-rdb/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2015-04-21&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

Giesele makes a trigger for the favor if you can't get used to the trigger.

It does NOT feel cheap at all. It's nothing like an AR. Shoulder one and you will be buying one.

Well perhaps I had the "unicorn" but the handguard on mine was held in place by a little plastic tab/slot in the rear and the 2 screws in the front and it tried a stubby vfg and it had so much movement it was ridiculous... It felt like the handguard was going to break or pop off so I replaced it wit and afg... Still more movement than I liked ... Not to mention that it's essentially mounted to a horseshoe barrel standoff with a bushing tight to the barrel....think that doesn't torque on that pencil barrel creating poa/poi issues?....

 

I removed the bushing between the horseshoe and the barrel to eliminate barrel torquing ...felt like a soup sandwich so reinstalled and lived with it.... Still not cheap/poor design? Detail strip for a barrel swap yet? Feels like you're going to break some of the plastic "bodywork" in doing so....but as I said before this was my opinion based on my experience.... I like the concept and from the overly cheap plastic "feel" I liked it but is it worth $15-1800? that's an individual decision .....in my OPINION it is not worth retail and there are far better (quality) weapons for that much money..... Just my opinion/experience

Taking the plunge, most likely picking one up tomorrow.

Have a chance to get a deal on a Tavor. Are they worth it? How much better than building a higher end AR? Are they worth the price?

 

From my experience, shooting Tavor is fun. The major drawback is price. That is, if you have a good deal - jump on it

In hand, but won't be able to take it to the range for a while.  Trigger is definitely heavy, going to try the "trigger job" shortly:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dizuRNL0HIs

It looks like the spring can be left in, just unhooked. I have a tendency to loose stuff.

I finally handled one yesterday. For the price i was going to have to be very impressed. Front hand position was uncomfortable for me and it just felt cheap and awkward. So it seems the answer is for now to not tavor. I would get one if i found one cheap. Just not something i need to have. Looks like another AR build is in order. Something very unique is coming out and i plan on ordering one ASAP

I'm probably going to buy the arak 21 soon. It seems like a very well designed and durable system. It's been out for a few years now, so all of the bugs seem to be fixed.

I do like the ARAK upper. Plan on one for a higher end build

I handled an Arak at a gun show in Kentucky last year. Fellows behind the counter seemed nice. But I remember coming away with the impression that it felt very heavy and front weighted. Much like a Springfield Armory Socom II.

I've read that it is pretty nose heavy, but it's nice knowing that you can use the arak as a hammer and it will still keep working. It definitely won't replace my bcm elw kmr, but it's a nice addition to any collection.

In regards to the Tavor, are we able to purchase the 16.5" Versions and have the A2 birdcage replaced with a brake + pin and weld? The NJ compliant 18" versions make me vomit.

In regards to the Tavor, are we able to purchase the 16.5" Versions and have the A2 birdcage replaced with a brake + pin and weld? The NJ compliant 18" versions make me vomit.

 

YES

In regards to the Tavor, are we able to purchase the 16.5" Versions and have the A2 birdcage replaced with a brake + pin and weld? The NJ compliant 18" versions make me vomit.

 

Yep, that's how I got mine from Monmouth Arms, plus a pinned pmag.  Highly recommend them.