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    • Maksim

      NJGF's Gun Range & Store Database   05/23/2017

      Excited about launching a new feature, our very own member- driven range and store database.  Read the announcement and watch the video here... www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/86658-njgfs-gun-store-range-database/

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  1. Welcome to NJ Gun Forums

    1. Forum Rules

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    2. Announcements, Support & Suggestions

      Everything website related is here. New announcements, support section, and a place for you to leave feedback for modifications

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    3. Introductions

      Welcome to the forums, care to introduce yourself?

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    4. Legislative Alerts and Rallies

      Post upcoming Legislative Alerts and Rallies in this section. No discussion permitted, other than about the actual events.

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  2. New Jersey & More

    1. General Discussion

      General Discussion Forum. Nothing controversial, family or work unfriendly. PG13. Strictly Enforced. NO Random News Links, NO Politics

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    2. New Jersey Gubernatorial Election, 2017

      Place to discuss all issues of the upcoming election. Please keep it polite and PG-13.  Language will be strictly moderated. 

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    3. Current Gun Law Discussion

      Discussion of the Laws already on the books.

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    4. Pending Legislation Discussion

      Discussion of Bills that have been introduced. Read the sticky before posting.

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    7. NJ Prepared

      NJ Prepared is a new section dedicated to those who are interested in practical prepping - UNRELATED TO FIREARMS . We are not looking for political discussions or tin foil hat conspiracy's. This is a place to share what knowledge you have and exchange information with fellow members who wish to learn what it takes to get through a disaster. Whether natural or man made. Gear reviews, Food Storage, First Aid etc... This section will hopefully help teach us the skills and knowledge needed to keep yourself and your family safe during times of distress in the state or country.

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  3. Shooting in New Jersey

    1. New Firearms Owners Corner

      Discussion of ideas around the ideal first firearm, and what you should know before going into the store.

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    2. Ranges & Gun Shops

      Whats your favorite place to shoot? Good shop experience?

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    3. Events & Meetups

      Share & discuss your plans for shooting trips or other events.

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    4. Competitive & Fun Shoot Discussion

      IDPA, USPSA, or anything in between.

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    5. Training Techniques and Tools

      Discussion of classes, training tools, programs, etc.

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  4. Firearms Discussion

    1. General Firearms Discussion

      Anything that doesn't fit in the above sections.

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    2. Rimfire Pistols & Rifles

      A forum just for rimfire pistols and and rifles.

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    3. Handguns

      Because you cannot have just one. Autoloaders, Rimfire, Revolvers.

      66,296
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    4. Rifles

      Anything from 223 to 50BMG to 700 Nitro Express

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    5. Muzzle Loaders

      You know... the stuff that came before the new guns.

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    6. Shotguns

      Click Click. Your shotgun discussions here.

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    7. Concealed Carry

      For topics and discussions about concealed carry weapons, belts, holsters, clothing.
      - This is not the place for law discussion

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    8. Ammunition & Reloading

      Discussions of various ammunitions as well as reloading techniques.

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    9. Gunsmithing

      Because some just always have to make it better. Metal, Wood, and everything else.

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    10. Optics & Accessories

      Glass, Dots, Lights, Holsters, etc, the other money pit for our firearms.

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    11. Hot Deal Discussions

      A place to announce any deals you ran across, that you are not selling yourself.

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  5. In the community

    1. Guns and Accessories For Sale or Trade

      Post your guns and gun-related accessories for sale here. No WTB threads! Only Premier Members may start new posts.

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    2. Want to Buy Guns and Accessories

      Looking for a specific gun or gun-related item? Post a WTB thread here. Only Premier Members may start new posts.

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    3. Experience/Feedback

      Use this forum to report feedback on any trades, purchases, etc with NJGF members

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    4. NJGF-List

      Your local marketplace for anything non-firearms related. Who needs Craig's list?

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    5. NJGF Pass-Around

      Honor system based pass around for books, etc.

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    6. Made in America

      Forum for discussion and sharing of American made goods and provided services

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  6. NJGF Vendor FFLs

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    2. Cheyenne Gunsmith & Firearms - Manville, NJ

      CheyenneGS.png   Firearms and Accessories Dealer & Gunsmith

       http://www.cheyennefirearms.com/

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    3. Estrella Ordnance

      avatar.jpg   Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

       http://www.colddeadhands.com

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    4. Garden State Shooting Center

      gssclogo.jpg   Firearms and Accessories Dealer & Range. 1955 Swarthmore Ave Lakewood, NJ 08701

       732-987-6990

       www.GardenStateShootingCenter.com

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    6. JT Custom Guns & Collectibles

      jtguns.jpg  Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

       http://www.jtcustomguns.com

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    7. Monmouth Arms - Morganville, NJ

      monmouthlogo.jpg  Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

       http://www.monmoutharms.com

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    8. Oak Ridge Firearms - Oak Ridge, NJ

      Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

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    9. Plumsted Arms - Cream Ridge, NJ

      plumstead.jpg  Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

       http://www.plumstedarms.com

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    10. RTSP - Randolph, NJ

      rtsp.png Firearms and Accessories Dealer & Range.

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    11. Sunrise Antiques - Chesterfield, NJ

      sunriseavatar.jpg  Firearms and Accessories Auctioneers.

       http://www.sunrise-antiques.com/

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    12. Tactical Training Center - Flemington, NJ

      ttclogo.png  Firearms and Accessories Dealer & Range. 10A Minneakoning Rd.,  Flemington, NJ

       908-782-9000  www.TacticalTrainingCenterNJ.com

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    13. TJ Sporting Arms - Bayville, NJ

      tjsalogoa.jpg  Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

       http://www.tjsportingarms.com

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  7. NJGF Shooting Accessories and Training Vendors

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    2. MDTS Training

      Modern Defensive Training Systems, LLC
       

      mdtsavatar.jpg  Combative Training & Techniques
      http://www.mdtstraining.com
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    3. Midwest PX

      midwestavatar.jpg  Your Source for AR15 Parts & Accessories

       http://www.midwestpx.com

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    4. Pew Pew Plates, LLC

      PewPew_Plate_500x500px-01.png  Steel Plates & Accessories

       www.pewpewplates.com

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    5. Shoot NJ

      shootnj.jpg  NRA Instruction at 4 Locations

       http://www.shootnj.com

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    7. Yagzz Shooting Systems

        Shooting Accessories Dealer.

      http://www.njgunforums.com

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    8. NJGF Shopping Partners

      Please visit our supporting sponsors. NJGF receives a small percentage of each sale any time you shop through the banners/links in the posts.

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  8. New Jersey Groups

    1. New Jersey Second Amendment Society

      A local group of New Jersey residents.

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    2. Second Amendment Women Shooting Club/SAW

      We are women safeguarding our Second Amendment Rights, through activism and education. Founded by Shari Spivack and Sandra Muldoon, NRA certified firearms instructors, the club is dedicated to teaching and providing continuing opportunities for women to enjoy shooting. SAW now is offering various levels of training classes for women only at our home range; the Woodland Park Range in New Jersey.

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    3. CJRPC

      For Members of Central Jersey Rifle & Pistol Club. PM me with Badge # to get access.

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    4. EFGA

      A discussion forum for members of Easton Fish and Game Association. Send a PM to a Mod for access.

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    5. OBRPC

      A discussion forum for members of Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol Club. Send a PM to a Mod for access.

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    6. Bridgewater Range Members

      A discussion forum for members of the private club in Bridgewater only. Send a PM to a Mod for access.

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    7. Citizen's Rifle & Revolver Club

      A discussion forum for members of Citizen's Rifle and Revolver Club. Send a PM to a Mod for access.

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    8. NJ ZED

      Your friendly, local, Zombie hunting squad.

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    • One of the brilliant design elements of the RPR is that swapping barrels is as easy as swapping a barrel on an AR.  I believe the barrel life expectancy on a 6.5CM is about 3K to 4K rounds before accuracy begins to drop.  Basically a .50 moa rifle becomes a 1 moa rifle.  I the competition world that is important, in the hunting or hitting a 9" gong at 1000 yds, not a big deal. If I do go with 6.5CM it will be through the RPR.




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    • I am new to precision shooting and very recently purchased a RPR in 223/556. Have shot it once and my initial impressions are very good. Shot it at 100 yards with a variety of ammo. Was able to achieve several sub-moa groups (.7 thru .9) using premium factory ammo. Am very happy with the RPR and am confident it is more accurate than I am. Recoil was very light. Check out the snipers hide forums. A wealth of information there from people who are true experts. One thing I do recall reading there is that with calibers such as 6.5Creedmore, barrel life is limited, as compared to 223/556 and 308.      
    • Brings to mind something someone once told me regarding legal proceedings: “Don’t answer a question that hasn’t been asked”.  A few other considerations related to Q#26 in general: - it is a felony to falsify your responses. So you must answer truthfully and be confident you can defend your answers should they ever be questioned in the future. (I.e. if you get caught lying, you are screwed.) - once you answer “Yes”, you must always answer “Yes” in order to be consistent with your prior submissions. In my case, I have answered”Yes” on two subsequent P2P applictions and included a letter stating  that I answered Yes in order to be consistent with my earlier applications. In that letter, I also affirmed(truthfully) that there has been no further treatment bla bla bla.  These last two applications were routinely  processed and approved with any issues. Hope this  helps. And of course IANAL 
    • Back in '13 I was talked into a .243 caliber rifle because of it's long range accuracy and light recoil.  I can't really complain because the recoil is light and it's incredibly accurate out of my Ruger American Rifle.  The only problem is it's only accurate for the first three or four shots.  Now, when I say accurate what I mean is sub MOA accurate.  After the 4th round, the groups open up to about 1.25", which is still plenty accurate for deer hunting.  The RAR and .243 cartridge, great economy. So, the plan was to upgrade to an affordable ($1,000.00 at the time)  Ruger Precision Rifle in .243 for a little more velocity and harmonic stability out of a longer heavier barrel.  Ruger absolutely screwed me when they dropped the .243 cartridge from the RPR line in submission of the 6mm Creedmoor when they came out with the RPR v2.0.  Now I'm thinking about saying screw it, the cost of 6mmCM isn't worth it compared to .243 so why not go with a totally different caliber all together.  If I'm going to have to pay $1.25/rd I may as well hop on the 6.5CM bandwagon.  Or, should I? In my research I learned a thing or two about Creedmoor.  The most obvious thing was that both cartridges were practically unnecessary.  6mm CM and 6.5mm CM are just rebrands for .243 Win and .260 Rem.  Both .243 and .260 were already fast flat shooting rounds, so, why did they reinvent the wheel?  I can only guess that it's easier to sell a "new and improved" product over a tried and true one.  Adding Creedmoor to the end of a cartridge name, apparently,  automatically makes it more sexy, I guess.  Something else I learned is that the brass for these CM calibers is typically soft and does not last very long.  Precision shooters are also typically reloaders.  So, what's up with the soft brass?  Is it just another way to sap $$$ from the pockets of shooters?  .243 and 260 brass is substantially stronger than the softer CM cousins.  Is there a legitimate (technically rational) reason for soft CM brass? I don't perceive that there is any exceptional increase of value in Creedmoor, (over existing cartridges) to justify the increase in cost, so now I'm expanding the possible cartridges to replace .243.  I may still go with 6.5CM but I will need a very convincing argument to do so.  In the running is 30-06, .260, .270, 7mm-08, 308 or 6.5Grendel.  Long range accuracy, cost per round and ballistic coefficient are the three major factors I'm considering.  I guess everyone has their idea of a perfect round, for me, economy is also a big factor.  I may just stick with .243 and get a Ruger American Predator rifle, which is the same as the RAR but with a heavier barrel and has a disgusting green stock.  I dunno.   Anyway, I'm always down for a good caliber wars thread.  No matter who loves what, I always learn something new.  
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