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Exercising your right to remain silent does not give a police officer probable cause to search your car Telling a police officer that you have a gun in your car also would not give them probable cause to search your car unless you were a known prohibited person. If it is legal for you to own why would it give police officers probable cause to search your vehicle if you have it in your vehicle and tell the truth when asked. So much paranoia in this thread!

This explains it all

OFFICER: Where u going son? RAY: None u fuck'n biznes pig. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I usually ask when I am searching someone: "Do you have anything on you or in your pockets that can hurt me? Box cutter from work, needles, hand grenades, nuclear bombs?" This usually gets a chuckle and I can feel the tension go out of the person I am searching. If I don't feel that relaxation, it's a clue. So much derp in this thread. Telling a cop you have a gun in the car is not PC to search anything. Fishnut is dead nuts right. It's easy - Transport within the law. Don't lie. You have nothing to worry about.

I've been asked but only because I was rear ended coming home from shooting clays. 3 shotguns in the front passenger compartment of my jeep. 2 in socks and 1 with no case, all unloaded. Cop looked at the guns and asked me if they were unloaded which I responded yes because they were. That was the end of the discussion about guns. Honestly I hope I get pulled over one day and some rookie cop decides to arrest me for legally transporting guns. I'll pull a Mr Dow and fall and break my jaw. When my lawyer is done with them I'll open the first NJGF range and you all can come and shoot for free!

Don't blame me because you couldn't seal the deal.

As much as I like HE... I really do prefer when you're harassing HIM and not ME! Now, go away.

Bring Peel and Griz! Ray Ray is the antithesis of Mute.

Yes, yes I do. And you have a nice one. Thanks for sharing.

Soooooo What's Your Interpretation of the 2 email correspondence between NH non resident permit holders and the Pa AG office that are posted in this thread? Fake news??? No offense but it seems like your trying pretty hard to not make any friends on this forum and your succeeding

I've never been asked whether I have any guns in the vehicle, but I wonder if responding with "I don't have anything illegal in the vehicle" would fly? You're sort of evading the question, and I'm sure some officers would catch it, but as long as you're within an exemption, you're not lying. Your next step would obviously be to politely decline any requests to search you or your vehicle. The biggest thing IMO is to drive within the laws so you don't get pulled over in the first place. Then, don't give the officer probable cause, i.e. keep the inside of your car clean, and make sure your guns are cased (but not in "gun cases") or, ideally, in the trunk where s/he cannot see them.

Sorry! It was a desperate diversionary tactic. Try to understand!

It will end up like the HE meet up. Jus sayin

Yes, but will have to make 2 trips, or pay ahead. Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk

It's hard NOT to have fun at these events. Everyone bustin clays and then chit-chattin with Fishnut like 10 year old school girls.

Someone call the AG and ask if it's illegal to lie to a cop.

You don't have to answer that question. Politely decline any invitations to discuss what is in your vehicle.

I know. At great odds at this point. On the flip side, there is a chance the liberal Judges might want to hear it before they die off and get replaced by Trump. But who knows, it could go 5-4 either way.

Schedule away brother. I think we are smart enough to make this work. if it was you and Zeke trying to figure something out.... well, then I understand your trepidation.

Comey is gone and Hillary is, and will continue to be a free bird.

If our gun laws are so tough, how did this happen? Outraged mother June Rodgers of Millville blames bail reform for the murder of her son. He was shot to death on a street in Vineland in April after a verbal dispute with a man driving a car. Cops arrested career criminal Jules Black, who’d been picked up on a separate gun charge four days before, and released with no bail.

Double or nothing on that case of beer?

I literally have NO CLUE what he's babbling about at this point. I will just... look away!

We should do a dry run with you before, peruta, or national Carry. pull me over for sumtin.

Obstruction for what Ray posted would be a hard sell to a judge at best, and most likely completely inappropriate to even consider Caveat: We can "what if" this to death but it all depends on why the car was stopped and what questions the driver was refusing to answer.

No worries. I can deal with that in a very professional and legal manner as well. If you see lights behind your car and you are being pulled over you can be assured you are being detained - I always get a kick out of people that ask that. There are times when "Am I being detained?" is a completely appropriate question that should be asked if there is some ambiguity regarding what is happening. A single car stop (vs a checkpoint) is not one of those times.

This shirt, is awesome. As is that ghetto heater. @gleninjersey

I did. Thanks for the compliment.

Yeah, it made me laugh and is totally disarming..... Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

Please ignore this instruction! Do NOT let this little gargoyle pull you into his snare. Now I know exactly how HE feels.

Here's the ATF letter stating the Carlson's Doublestar mini comp is NOT a flash hider.

Hey! What did I ever do to you?

If by this you mean "It will be worth the wait" then I agree.

Run for the hills...

Rot starting on the bottom? Sounds like a cal/mag deficiency sometimes called bottom rot if it's starting on the bottom. Dilute epson salt into a gallon of water and pour around the root area of each plant before the tomatoes are ripening. Peppers are also subject to this. What kind of topsoil? Better to get a planting mix than cheap topsoil. Also check the PH of your water and soil. If they are off it can lock nutrients out of your plants so no matter what fertilizer you put down it won't get into the plants. I went with raised beds this year and spent some coin on a good quality planting mix. My garden is already exploding. As for fertilizer I went with Fox Farm nutrients a few years ago and could not be happier with the results. I belive midwest px went with Fox farms last year and had great results as well. Before fox farms I used garden tone with decent results.

"......all the muzzle loaders the Fudd rely on...... the shotguns with slug barrels.... .69 caliber.....and bigger....get scooped up...it will serve the 'sportsmen' right and get what they deserve for their apathy." Nah, Anthony Mauro of the NJOA will take Don Norcross on a scuba adventure, then take Stephen Sweeney out for a steak dinner and will triumph a compromise before the 11th hour. The NJOA will be heralded as the savior, and will continue to befuddle the fudd's.

Ammo won't matter. Most guns would melt or warp anyway. The best you could hope for is that the fire is put out quickfastnotslow. To me, fire ratings for gun safes is over rated as well as how many modern guns would fit in it.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They where gifts from the wife !

What happens when the bad guys have RPGs and cannons?

I emailed back in November and ask about if they were going to offer anything like a "Founder's Membership" This is Melissa's reply Dec 7th: "Thank you for your email! As we get closer, yes, we will have Ground Breaking memberships available. Details to be posted! We will add you to our prospective membership email distribution list. Thanks, Legacy Indoor Range and Armory" Haven't heard anything from them since But, I haven't emailed them again. I'm curious as well. Email: [email protected] Edit: On the homepage for Legacy there is a new link to fill out a form if you're interested in becoming an investor, a member or employee.

Lol, these are social events for me just as much as a shooting event. If I wanted to concentrate on just shooting I'd go by my self.

Shooters in Egg Harbor usually has em in stock. Say around $500ish I think.

Non-mobile link http://www.bjs.com/stack-on-24-gun-fire-safe-with-electronic-lock.product.286694?dimId=2001870 If that's $299.99 I'm getting one.

Stack-on, man A Snap-on Safe, if they ever made one, would cost $20k not being a douche, just want to be clear.

Troy, This thread is the end result of folks on their phones (and home computers/laptops) NOT reading the other poster's comments. Ray said it best: "The Cannibals are among us"! Name calling, childish behavior, and utter stupidity blended with naive gun owners, some of whom are probably trolls. Maybe it's time to reconsider pulling the plug? Rosey

idk, bit I do know Obummer had the CDC do a study on gun violence and it turned out to be a bunch bs and backfired on him. Maybe someone pointed that out to those pushing this bill.

FWIW, SA has released a new video on their Facebook page related to this issue, it may matter to some folks ...

What?

I just want to be able to pay a few hundred bucks and be able to shoot unlimited no extra fees or BS. To pay $450 for a "gold" membership and still need to pay per visit seems excessive to me. For $2,500 platinum you should get an HJ with every visit.

A lot of work considering you need to match the bullet type and weight with the box flap info AND The brass must match the box, and both must closely resemble brand new! And when the range-nazi marks the cardboard box when he checks it, you're SOL on using that box again. I'll stick with my outdoor ranges, esp now that Cumberland Riflemen has opened its Pistol Plinking Range, equipped with steel targets at 20yds There are 2 dueling trees (one .22 rimfire, one centerfire) and a 6-plate rack with more planned as the newly opened (Black Friday) range gains popularity. After sending a box of .22LR into the dueling tree with my S&W 41, the thought occurred to me that I might NOT own enough rimfire ammo!!