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Wanna know what it's like to be a cop... Try that on for size at your job.

Okay, first of all you will never be pulled over by the CIA or NSA. State and local guys can use unmarked cars. They don't have to be "clear and open". Some PDs have policies where they don't use unmarked cars for traffic enforcement. That doesn't mean one of their unmarked cars can't stop you for a traffic violation. FBI, USSS, USMS, HSI, USPIS, IRS, National Marine Fisheries Service, and all Federal investigative agencies all use unmarked cars equipped with lights and sirens. They don't do traffic enforcement but you have to stop for them. Some Federal agencies have unique search authority. CBP, HSI, USBP, some DEA agents, and any state or local with cross designation as a Customs Officer can search your vehicle or even you without PC if certain conditions are met. Many of these conditions can be met anywhere, even NJ. When it comes to boats the same applies to commissioned, warrant, and petty officers. There have been incidents in more rural states where some cretin would put on a red light, make people stop because they thought he was a cop, and rob them. This is not as widespread as some think but it has happened. War story. When I worked in AZ in the 70s one night I wanted to stop a car going north from the border Not for a MV violation. I'm in plainclothes and an unmarked pickup. Put on my red light, they keep going. Tap my siren, they keep going. When I was on a local pd I had drunks that did this for awhile. This was in the desert. Literally nothing for over 20 miles in each direction. This guy kept driving a 55 mph. Didn't try to get away. I called ahead to the Sheriff's Office for an assist, they sent a marked car south, and after following this guy for 10 miles with my red light on he finally stopped for the marked SO car. Turned out they didnt do anything. Old guy and his wife who were afraid they were going to be robbed. The deputy and I both told them they did the right thing under those circumstances. Incidents of this type were not unusual when I worked in AZ.

@OP - Good evening. Now I have no idea of your capability and choosing a rifle/caliber for some one is like buying them underwear I'll make no recommendations just throw some facts and opinions out there. If you're gonna shoot distance just shoot. Even 22lr at 50/75/100yds. Shoot a decent rifle/scope/ammo prone and make little groups. I'll practice on a 3/4" dot and it's about group. You can always change POI. If you go out to 100yds w/ a 22lr you'll learn to read wind. You can't buy your way into shooting well. One of my favorite rifles is a Savage 12 w/ Sightron 8-32 in 243 Win. Not pricey! You had better learn to hand load. Not only cost but you want to tailor your ammo to your rifle. This is how you achieve precision. Learn what makes a rifle shoot well. Barrel, bedding, trigger quality and ammo. Know what to expect of your bullet, performance wise, over the distance you're shooting. Be able to formulate impact solutions based on your ammo and distance. Now I shoot mostly fixed distances so, I don't have to range. You will need to know how to work with MOA and MRAD. Ask questions and as I think of more stuff I'll just spit it out.

A different take on the topic. No, assembling a standard AR is not rocket science. But I have fixed enough other peoples builds to form an opinion that fundamentals of solid assembly techniques, tools and knowing what to do when faced with a problem may be beyond a fair amount of people. Now, when you step outside of standard and in the realm of the 6.5G or worse, large frame AR's, you are entering a different world. Let me qualify my statement a bit. If your building a blaster 6.5G then I may agree with the posters above. But most people building a 6.5G are pursuing a precision rifle. And I have come across a number of 6.5 specific build techniques to help achieve those accuracy pursuits. I too encourage doing it yourself. But go into it understanding you may not end up with a reliable bug hole shooter coming out the other end. If you indeed want a precision 6.5 Grendel then it may make sense to pursue a precision 6.5G centric builder.

Seth Rich

I don't care whom hacked whom. The content of the emails has been glossed over. Why did they say what they said?

Re: State v. Renninger Not a good case to support not taking a piss on the way to the range. The guy was an idiot, asshole or criminal with really bad judgement, a sketchy story and incomplete documentation for the car as well as multiple license plates. Remove the firearms from the equation. He's still broken the three simple rules. Bad judgement was an asshole and didn't keep his mouth shut who thinks this guy, ostensibly traveling from Maine to Texas, in a car that's not his, sketchy paperwork with guns on his back seat and a loaded handgun, should be stoping behind a bank to take a snooze? Shit man, a Florida neighborhood watch member would have shot him... the 2nd amendment isn't a defense for stupid. The 1st amendment may be, but that's a horse of another color entirely.

Reninger is not a good example. The court ruled the search was okay under the circumstances that were present. Not just plain view of a gun case. Sleeping in a bank parking lot at 3 am will attract police attention anywhere. The subject was nervous, he didn't have registration or insurance id, he had two sets of plates, the cop saw the gun cases and he lied to police, he wasn't transporting the guns IAW FOPA. Being a former police officer I would think he would be aware of FOPA. Just a few things I picked out from the appellate decision. Not showing up for his own trial certainly didn't help his appeal. Nappen said what I would expect a defense attorney to say but he didn't state all the facts. I agree. NJ gun laws suck. They are the result of trying to make something illegal except what we permit. Someone should start a thread listing all the people who have been arrested transporting firearms and stopped to use the bathroom, get gas, or something to eat. I have asked this question at least dozens of times and no one's come up with one. There has to be at least one in the last nearly 50 years "reasonable deviation" has been the law in NJ. There has to be at least one in the past 10 years where everything hits the internet. I don't know of any. Please show me one case. Not long ago there was some phony baloney story going around that a guy was arrested after dropping someone off returning from the range. There were reactions here, on other forums and Facebook pages to what turned out to be a phony story. Some dummy who's a security guard who wants to be a cop puts his gun in his glove compartment and forgets it's there. Maybe he "forgot" so he could impress his girlfriend. Seems to me he's not much of a responsible gun owner if he doesn't know where his only gun is. While the wording "reasonable deviation" leaves a lot to interpretation it's worked okay in NJ. No one has been arrested for an "unreasonable" deviation. Yes, it needs to be changed but there's no stimulus to do so.

Probably not that many. If you want to do what people are talking about you need to get a car, a red light, and a gun. A lot of logistics. Plus you might get run over. Liquor stores, bodegas, and gas stations are much easier marks. You know they have cash. The guy in the Mercedes, BMW, or Jaguar probably has a lot of credit cards.

I know BR guys like high magnification. I don't shoot BR so I really cant speak to that too much. Something to think about, an 8x scope would make 800 yards look like 100 yards. I rarely go past 14X on my scope. The more magnification you dial, the more things like mirage impact what your seeing. There is so much to consider here that it gets pretty tricky to advise. FFP are indeed more expensive because they are more expensive to make. Scopes are the realm of compromise and also deep into the rabbit hole of diminished returns. No one can really answer for another person what things are important to them. When you really dive into the world of scopes you learn that the things you are paying for are far beyond basic considerations. For example, is a S&B worth it? YES! To someone that ALL of the things a S&B brings to the table matters to. Clarity, light gathering, chromatic aberration, tunneling, color reproduction, pincussion etc etc etc etc. Some features are likely to weigh in much more heavily to some. S&B tends to have fantastic light gathering characteristics. In fading light I could still see with my S&B when other peoples scopes went dark long before the current light level. To someone that may face that environment, that can matter a lot. But back to the basics. Clarity is important but many agree, repeatability is king. But if you buy a quality scope, keep in mind there is always a market for it leaving you the opportunity to upgrade later.

What States?

Our first mini split is going in this month. 12 year warranty is sweet. Cant wait.

You'd be surprised at what the local cops know about you, your family, your friends, anyone you ever lent $5 to. in my experience, if you're not a shitbag you have nothing to worry about. Relax. We so self-abuse that we wring our hands over the littlest things. Try a little thought perspective : put yourself in the cop's shoes, all you want to do is your job, which is tough enough, and get home to your family and that beer. Then some guys from Pa in a suburban that is wrapped in "Molón Labe", cold dead fingers and such shit trying to cross the tunnel into NYC. You're gonna ask the question and your day just got real complicated. on the other hand, you're having a nice free donut yesterday, sitting by the side of the road and some guys in "their wife's" minivan roll through a stop sign in Bridgewater. You put the Boston creme down and do what you have to do. Soccer sticker, clean license... you know why I pulled you over? Don't say: "Because I'm on the way to the range and I h ave 14 guns and 3k rounds of ammo and you're anti 2nd amendment." Say: "because I'm an idiot and rolled through a stop sign?" the cop says be careful next time, or you're getting a ticket. Goes back to the cruiser, runs your license, you're not a shit bag, gives you back your stuff, "stay safe out there" he's 20 minutes closer to that beer. Although the legislators we elected have written laws to use against us law abiding criminals, cops didn't. Use your best judgement dont be an asshole Keep your mouth shut (and hope the chick you have duct taped in the trunk doesn't kick the inside of the car.) the above "rolling through a stop sign" story is true. Except for the duct tape.

I usually ask when I am searching someone: "Do you have anything on you or in your pockets that can hurt me? Box cutter from work, needles, hand grenades, nuclear bombs?" This usually gets a chuckle and I can feel the tension go out of the person I am searching. If I don't feel that relaxation, it's a clue. So much derp in this thread. Telling a cop you have a gun in the car is not PC to search anything. Fishnut is dead nuts right. It's easy - Transport within the law. Don't lie. You have nothing to worry about.

This explains it all

Oh Podesta was well documented... his iPhone password was "p@ssword" as it was leaked in those emails. He lost his freaking phone in the taxicab.... someone then did icloud restore. You don't need to be a "hacker" to figure it out... in fact, any 12 year old would. The other leaks were by DNC staffers... again, not hacks.... leaks. The rest... social engineering. If someone has access to your gmail password... they have access to EVERY site you visited, not just google, because Google tracks it all in your history.... hence why it knows the auto suggestions for what to put in google maps and where and at what time, etc.

What if The Russians hacked the DNC? So what. They did us a favor by turning over the under handed crap the Clintons were pulling. For the record I don't think Russia had anything to do with it. Podesta fell for a phishing scam. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Take a breath. Calm down. You're starting to sound like me and that's never a good thing. Realistically evaluate what you think you're going to be doing. It's not easy when in the middle of making decisions like this but it's important. I've made mistakes and they get pricey fast. FFP is nice for ranging. It's what the cool kids have. Subtensions are constant across the magnification range. However at the low end, the reticule gets very small. At the high end, if it's not a decent quality scope, the reticule gets thick enough that it can completely obscure a target at distance. SFP can still be used for ranging however the subtensions only agree at one particular magnification setting. So, it's a bit clunkier but still quite usable. Remember, the military used straight 10x for a long time with great success to 1k. Again, it's body mass not tiny groups but it's a doable thing. And, fwiw, I've gotten good glass for great prices on the used market. Some locally and some from forums/Facebook.

Asked about this topic being against the rules, and received no answer from my thread, so posting it up as I feel some of the forum would have a need for this service. From talking to holster companies, it seems that if you want one made specifically for an odd handgun, you would have to find a NJ FFL that would also make the holster to legally carry that out. Problem is that I actually have not found one in central NJ that offers that service. So, I've talked to people at the Oaks gun show and heard that sometimes, custom holster makers come to do holsters while you wait. Went out to this past one on a whim, and found one that I think would be a good option for people that have a gun setup not commonly offered as a holster. I was looking for a company's name prior to this show, so at least there is one contact name on the forum if people want to check if they will be present at an upcoming show. If anyone finds another maker, definitely add into this thread... as I wouldn't have thought to check a holster company from Ohio to be going to Oaks. Now, I do want to clearly point out that this is not a dig at any holster makers... especially NJ ones. Personally, I say buy locally to keep the NJ gun/accessory market going. But not every company can make holsters for all guns... or even specific accessories (lights, lasers, bayonets [emoji41]). Anyways, I wanted to have a holster made for my SP-01... wearing the CZ Tactical Block. I have a Bravo Concealment holster that fits it with a TRL-1, which was my first Kydex holster, so wanted to get another. There usually is a guy at the shows that does custom leather holsters... and while I like some of my leather holsters, wasn't what I was looking for (or even one of those universal holsters which might have fit). Walking the show, I found a corner table in the first room with a good amount of Kydex on the table. Quite a few holsters in some common variations, as well as knife sheaths. Guy just grabbed lunch, so figured I'd talk to him while he wasn't working on holsters. Showed him what I had, and described what I was looking for (OWB holster in black). Company was Shark Tac, the guy's name was Brandon, and he was very interested in what I had. Asked me about the way the block was secured to the rail, and how it locks/unlocks (wanted to see if any pressure on the locking tab will cause it to come off the rail during the draw, and looked to see how he could make sure that did not occur). Gave me a price to do the work ($140), which was fair in my eyes, considering the amount of custom work needed to be done. Said he will be about an hour, took my name and gun info on an invoice, and said to enjoy the rest of the show (was another room to look at). Came back a few minutes before the full hour, and he asked me to give him a few more minutes. Considering it is a gun show, and people inquiring for services/purchases... absolutely not a problem. Walked out to the car to toss ammo/gun case in my trunk, went to the bathroom, got a drink, and came back as he was finishing it up. Showed me retention, and I was very happy with the work. Here are some pictures of what I received... Brandon was proud of the work, as well. From talking with him, he has been doing holsters for 17 years. He asked if it was ok if he took a few pictures for his Instagram... which I had no problem with (he made sure serial numbers were out of frame, which while it didn't bother me, I appreciate it; the one he posted looks great). One of the people working at a magazine table (all odd firearm magazines in different calibers) came over and was impressed when he showed her his work. At the same time, I asked if it would be ok to mention his company in a review... which he appreciated. Very happy with the holster. Retention was a little tight, but has worn in enough to make it a nice draw. Rather it start off too tight than too loose. Going to link his business card, as I am not affiliated with him. Figured if someone has a gun setup that they want a custom holster made for, they can reach out to him and confirm if he would be at an upcoming show (pain in the butt to walk around with a cased handgun while you are looking around). He did say he usually attends Oaks... and looking at his website, he is saying he will be at the upcoming August 2017 show. While I'm not looking to have a bunch of holsters made up, I am considering one or two possibilities. I would like to do one for my S&W 642-1 with a LaserMax weapon light... but would like to see if he could do something for 9mm moonclips (would have to grab some snap caps to bring with me). Other one I was considering was my Glock 30S, with a weapon light on it. I was thinking about a sheath for the Tactical Block blade, but rather something more practical (would keep it from just sitting out in the safe). If someone finds another holster maker that does a similar service, I'd definitely want to hear about it. If a NJ FFL offers it, I'd also would want to get the word out.

Field Supply has some good deals - they use the same warehouse/drop ship as Cigarpage.com

Just received a shipment from Field Supply. They recently had a 24 hour sale with some good deals.

What is your solution?

I should have another 10 or 12% coupon to use if you want... and go through our link... we get credit. =)

$250-$300. Barrels today are hard to find, particularly slug & VR models. I've seen them go for more than the gun.

What company is this? To avoid them. @remixer @Oakridgefirearms @PK90 @JT Custom Guns @nuclearheli

It's been quiet without him Zeke.... Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

Fail

I couldn't be more happy with my mini split system.

Answers a bunch of questions no one is asking. Pass.

That's pretty cool Griz.

870 runs like a dream.

I also have a August 1942 Life magazine with Ensign George Gay on the cover. Military history buffs know who he is. Use Google for the rest of you.

The mafia pulls over people with light and sirens?

The lights and sirens.

That is a false assumption. Nope.

He's heard from many citizens around PA. I'm not concerned about this passing, but I'll be doing everything I can to make sure it doesn't.

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Is Mipa on a hiatus ? lol Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

That statement is ignorant. We have 870's in our inventory that are over 20 years old and that get fired way more than most people will ever shoot them.

And on this topic, part of the reason I sold my 308 years ago and replaced it with the Ar was precisely that. The most I was going to shoot at that point was 300 yards at cj. Bought a complete varmint upper from White Oak, 16" bull varmint barrel. Out to 300 it kept .42" MOA.

So, you didn't ask me either but WTH, I'll chime in... The Grendel is entirely capable out to 1k with the right bullets and powder. Hell, guys shoot 1k with iron sights and long barreled .223. However given case capacity, it's most likely going to be better on steel than as a precision rig. Meaning you will hit steel more consistently than you will hit the "X" ring. So, defining your purpose further will be something to consider. The NF scope is awesome. No question. Just remember that those guys use mirage to make wind calls and it's a completely different "game" than the tacti-cool game that a lot of us try and play. Will it cross over. Sure will. As far as low end mag, I shoot 100yds with my scope set on 24 and 700yds with it at 10x. It is all dependent on what I'm doing for the day. Defining your purpose further will be something to consider. It all comes down to what you want to do and how you want to do it. I recently took a class in PA an shot to 700. Had a ball. I have a x47 that is perfect for something like that. I learned a ton. One thing I learned is that there can be such a thing as too much magnification. I never really took my scope past 10x for the entire day. It isn't necessary to ring steel. Less mirage and wider field of view when transitioning are the biggest benefits to me. If I was trying to make the "X" ring, well the 24x would probably not be enough. Just some random musings before I go to bed. It's all worth exactly what you are paying for it.

A saw I didn't address some of the scope questions. You can get s scope for precision rifle as low 3x at the bottom. With that you can shoot close in. You can also side mount irons or a no mag optic. What's the inner and outer range (I see 1k) of targets you want to engage? the DMR is 3.5 - 21 power. The only neg on that scope is the lack of 0 stops.

While I'm not on the list of people you are looking for comment from I'll give you my advice and remember what you are paying for it. I have a two Grendel ARs, can Grendel cartridges do 1000 yards, eh, maybe. Accurately? Maybe a bit less so. What barrel length were you looking to do? That's a critical bit. The 6mmAR based off the Grendel is a bit more capable at distance if you want to shoot precision at 1k, I have one, Frank has one, but that still wouldn't be what I chose to go that length. If the primary purpose is to shoot at distance consider one of the more popular 6.5mm or 6mm precision cartridges like the x47 Lapua (if you reload) or the Creedmoor if you don't. Also do it with a 700 action bolt action, cheap, and get it trued, a few hundred more. I have a 6.5x47L on trued Remington action with a KRG chassis and it's awesome. The action and barrel are new and everything was was purchased in great shape used including the Timney Calvin trigger (125 bucks). The priciest thing you will but will be the scope to handle that distance. Scope choices are highly dependent on budget, what's yours? On my two precision rifles I have G2DMR and Leupold MK6. On my 6mmAR I have a Vortex PST FFP. Again take it FWIW and let's see what @Old School and @Shane45 have to say.

On weekends it's packed. You'll find out soon enough that when your lil one wants something, and has earned it, you will do what is necessary. Even if that means spending 4 hours in NYC traffic, spending 60 bucks in parking, 30 bucks in tolls and a duece and a half for Chinese made products. Parenthood

I should have said in my last response two things most burglars don't want to deal with is alarms and dogs. That's an easy answer but not easy to do. Getting a dog includes caring for it and can be a radical lifestyle change for many. Dogs have to be let out, fed, and cleaned up after on a daily basis. There's no spur of the moment getaways as you have to make arrangements for the dog if you can't take it with you. Getting a dog is similar to having a kid but you can't stick your kid in a crate or lock them in a room if you're going out for a few hours. All dogs can't have the run of the house when no one's home. Now I know some that call themselves "dog people" that can just go out and get another when their dog dies. I'm not one of them. My last dog died at age 13 almost two years ago. She was a great defender of her turf. When she got sick I spent several thousand dollars on a rescue dog to find out she couldn't be saved. There are plenty of dogs in shelters that are there because someone suggested to their former owners "get a dog" for some reason. A gun or an alarm is easier to take care of and won't give you the same amount of emotional distress if it dies. If you get a dog get a rescue.

Not really, the laws is written in plain English. While I may not agree with them all it's really easy to follow them. Follow the law and there is no need to be paranoid.

3 simple rules. Use your best judgement. Don't be an asshole. Shut the fuck up.

You guys realize they wear underwear and socks Jus like us? It's job. unless you got an Rpg or sumtin. cannons are legal. Looked it up

I understand not answering the question about having a gun in the car and how it would give the cop probable cause to search your car. But what if he asks where are you going or where are you coming from, which they most always do? If you say you are coming from or going to the range, it can be reasonably assumed you have a gun in your car, wont that give the cop probable cause to search you car? If you do have a gun in the car and are going to the range, you don't want to lie just in case he finds probably cause to search you car. If you said you were going somewhere else, you lost your exemption for transporting the gun.

Reading quickly, I thought this said "hamster" and got very VERY confused/concerned. lol