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A fellow bought a new Corvette and was out on an interstate for a nice evening drive. The top was down, the breeze was blowing through what was left of his hair and he decided to open her up. As the needle jumped up to 80 mph he suddenly saw a flashing red and blue light behind him. "There ain't no way they can catch a Corvette," he thought to himself and opened her up further. The needle hit 90, 100, 130 and finally 150 with the light still behind him. "What the hell am I doing?" he thought and pulled over. The cop came up to him, took his license without a word and examined it and the car. "I've had a tough shift and this is my last pull over. I don't feel like more paperwork so if you can give me an excuse for your driving that I haven't heard before you can go!" "Last week my wife ran off with a cop," the man said, "and I was afraid you were trying to give her back!" "Off you go," said the officer.

I realize this post was meant to kick the beehive, and arrogance aside, was made at least partly tongue in cheek, as I doubt someone who has spent any significant time in this culture could be so naive. With that said... The word is tactics. Operators live and die by them, Gamers do not. It's much easier to be fast and accurate when no one is returning fire, or that cardboard cut out isn't actually a ten year old girl; screaming crying, kicking and flailing in the arms of her stumbling to and fro, moving attacker who simultaneously is threatening the child with the weapon and shooting at you, while also refusing to cross a known open distance of exposure, as a constant rate of speed and direction. Yes, you know your equipment better, because it's nearly the exact same for every single event, repeated over a thousand, or ten thousand practices and matches. For the Operator, equipment is mission dependent, and each can be very different from the next. For the Gamer, the pistol is the primary weapon, even in many three gun matches. In the Operators world, the pistol is second, third or more down the line to more substantial weapons. In the Gamer world, everything must be done now, or as close to now as humanly possible. In the Operator's word, it's much slower and much more controlled. Speed matters, but not at the expense of leaving your back or flanks exposed to an unknown threat. In the Gamer's world, with very few exceptions, it's all on your shoulders, and everything forward is clearly marked as a shoot or no shoot target. In the Operator's world, they are part of a team, and in addition to their own safety, they are responsible for any number of others, which means others who may move into or through their field of fire, repeatedly during an engagement. Their targets are many times dressed exactly like their hostages, and weapons may not be clearly visible, and depending on their positioning may determine their shoot, or no shoot status. Gamers have rules to follow, but they don't begin to approach the litany of rules, regulations, laws and policies the Operator must be in compliance with right at the moment, to engage a target. That said, the word Operator is also being tossed around pretty liberally; to basically apply to anyone who carries a weapon for a living. As someone who's done that for much better then twenty years, I can say with complete certainty that there are many many in uniform who neither operate, nor are Operators. In that vein, I offer the following;

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Notice the careful dance around the issue of carrying a weapon outside the home. The judge knows it's protected by the 2nd but doesn't want to say it's legal. He wants to hint that it isn't legal - without saying it. So he just says that having a weapon outside the home "may not be" "manifestly appropriate". I mean, who knows what that pesky old Constitution means anyway? I'm just a Supreme Court Justice. I'm as baffled about the whole thing as anybody else.

Why is this good advice? Above you is a post by JohnnyB relating a time when he was stopped. His account shows that your advice may not be the best course of action. Now, I agree, don't go 80 in a 35. It's dangerous for you and for other drivers. But whatever, he did. When stopped he was honest, forthcoming, and treated the Police officer like a decent, reasonable human being, and didn't behave like an asshole. Guess what? He didn't get a ticket. What makes your way so great other than it is YOUR way? I guarantee that based on my training and the guidelines used for when to issue a ticket vs a warning - Someone that shows no awareness of what they have done, offers no legitimate reason for doing it, and demonstrates that the fact that they were stopped and I am now talking to you about the infraction isn't enough of an educational experience to ensure you won't do it again, will get a ticket every time. But you do your silly shit Ray. Act like an ass, get your ticket, and drive home. It's all good. No offense @Ray Ray

Very sorry for your loss. We had to put our Flat-coat down in April, it's never an easy thing to do. That said, I agree withat those who've mentioned rescues. Our newest addition is a sweetheart, and while we are curious enough to have done the DNA test, she's a wonderful pup and that matters more to us than her geniology.

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I wouldn't get over being concerned about what an agency carries. These things change, sometimes quicker than you think. I think it is more important to consider things like pay, upward mobility, variety of duties, etc.

I bet if you took Ray Ray's advice and sat there mute you would have got out of the ticket also [emoji12] Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

My simple steps for being pulled over: 1) Be polite 2) Be Respectful 3) Keep your hands on the steering wheel. For night stops, turn on interior light. 4) Give credentials only when asked for them 5) Give direct answers to direct questions. No more; no less. Has worked nearly ever time for me. S.

I totally get it...Ray on the other hand....meh Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk

I will be heading out to R14 in a while. If you happen to be going there today and want to stop and say hi, I will be driving a green Subaru Legacy. It's easy to spot with a stripe of blue tape across the windshield and rear window.

Anyone attending. I will be there to defend my Subcompact Class win. Ill be there to help set up Friday too.

The judge was saying you can do something in your home that would be inappropriate outside the home. He stuck to the issue. The correct decision was made IMO. The judge was not legislating from the bench. You can tear apart a lot of decisions and comments to make them anti 2A. I don't think this is one of them. You apparently do. Agree to disagree.

OK, this was nice to see... especially in these days of rising tensions between police and citizen activists. A 3-year old girl in the Kansas City area wants to be a cop, so she sets up a lemonade stand to earn money to buy her own mini-cop uniform... and by midday she has her uniform. Family posts it to Facebook... local police station puts out the word and over the course of the remaining afternoon, they have 50+ cops showing up from all over the area to the lemonade stand... including members from the mounted unit (with their horses, natch)... and even a police chopper buzzing overhead. Too funny. And great PR! http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/good-news/911-lemonade-emergency-officers-visit-wannabe-cops-stand/ar-BBCa0hk?li=AAk6ORB&ocid=spartanntp

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First off, thanks for that. I appreciate it. It's a big move, but considering that most of my family is moving out in the next few years, I don't want to start a career here and get tied down for 25+ years. I love the 10mm. When I got my S&W 1006, it really set the bar with what I'd want in a future 10mm. For the SIG, I am fond of the controls (prefer decockers over safeties... which is why I converted my Beretta to G). It is a well built pistol, even the .45. Issue for me with the .45 is SIG pricing. With the 10mm, I'd spend it because of the lack of 10mm pistols from other companies. For 10mm 1911s, I'm not that big on them. In another thread that touched on the cartridge, I've seen more problems with 1911s chambered in 10mm than most other platforms (exception being the EAA guns). My view of a 1911 is definitely bias, being I like Government profiles in .45 (why I got that version of the Ruger). Other calibers really don't do it for me... but to be clear, I'm far from a 1911 guy. If anything, I'm torn between Beretta and CZ. The P220 in 10mm is the same capacity as the .45, which always bothered me. S&W did one more in the 1006 over the 4506. Why not make that extra round fit, even if you had to redesign the magazine (never did a 10mm classic gun, do it right from Jump Street). If they did a 10mm P227... got to do 12+ in the base magazine. For a new design, I'd see it as the best time to make a standard magazine at a higher capacity... unlike the two differences in 9mm P229s (older one that used P228 magazines, and the newer one that adds two rounds and uses the profile of the .40 magazine body; since it just came up, I think Glock did the GAP line because they felt they should have gone with a less aggressive magazine stacking in the 21/30... maybe like the .45 Beretta PX4, which is a little more comfortable). At the same token, the extended ones... go 15+. Again, I'm very biased...

That would be Michael Dunn. And yes, that's, precisley, whom I believe this is about. The Jordan Davis/Michael Dunn case was, in essence, "Martin/Zimmerman Round 2." Only this time, Dunn was guilty as sin and, thusly, convicted. Angela Corey (Duval County SA at the time and who's team was brought into Seminole County to prosecute Zimmerman) prosecuted this case personally, refusing to allow a repeat of Martin/Zimmerman.

I'll be there, but I doubt Mrs. DT will be attending.

Tex? And Mrs Tex? cough.....

Just played a game today. BIIIIIIIIIIIIG game. Over 500 People. Probably closer to 600-700. Don't have the final tally yet. Unfortunately because of the safety equipment I was wearing, and the somewhat dissimilar dimensions of the Rifle/pistol mags/etc, I have a hard time doing speed reloads compared to the real thing. Wearing goggles with a face mask attached makes it hard to look to manipulate - especially if the goggles are very scratched up. Still it was very good practice. I got a lot of point shooting in with my GBB pistol, as I was helping defend a castle structure, and inside was semi auto only. Pistol engagements made that a lot easier - I got a lot of kills with it. USPSA/IDPA did help too - I found myself focusing on the front sight a lot more than just shooting and watching the BBs. Oh and yes, Airsoft does hurt. (That's my underarm)

Unfortunately for you all Mrs. HE will not be attending. She is truly my better half.

The big problem that I see is that when it gets to point where you really need to start counting rounds, i.e.: the last half of the mag, the follower is inside the magwell and you can't see the tritium. On a pistol mag, it's even worse. The whole mag is inside the grip. If you are going to pop the mag to check rounds remaining, you should probably just tac-load.

If you think the U.S. dollar is backed by oil and therefore reliable as a store of value, explain that to the citizens of Venezuela. They have a giant reserve of oil and their currency is currently next to worthless. The U.S. dollar is a currency created by the Federal Reserve and not the U.S. government, backed by nothing but debt, not tangible assets. Read exactly what it says on the U.S. currency currently in your wallet and purse. You'll notice you don't have any Silver Certificates in there. They're not hiding anything. Since Nixon closed the international gold window the value of our U.S. dollar is based on good will. And hope.

It's a summer night in the 1970's, during one of the gas crises, around 2:00 AM. I'm tooling up 206 north between 287 and Chester, the 'death strip' where a lot of people met their makers. I'm in my Fiat 1200 Spider, top down, doing probably 70 in a 55 zone. Then in my rear view mirror there's the red and blue bubbles and the conversation begins. After I explain i was going home from my second job and just being foolish trying to get home quicker to get some sleep before morning comes, the officer, being economically conscious, says: "The President's asked you to slow down, the Governor's asked you to slow down, do you suppose if I ask you to slow down it would do any good?" To which I burst out laughing and said "I guess I'd be a flaming idiot if I didn't!" No ticket. "Have a safe night." I never forgot that. And behaved accordingly ever since.

Yup my wife is going

Judge isn't dancing around any issue. The only issue appellate judges rule on is the issue brought forth in the appeal. Here it is if possession of the machete in the home was legal. That's the issue. The judge acted appropriately.

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If it's a situation with potential criminal implications you SHOULD STFU and not say anything to the police. I've posted this link many times. It CAN and WILL hurt you to be "honest" if you've just run someone over or been caught holding the proverbial bag. A criminal trial or pretrial interviews -- WITH YOUR ATTORNEY PRESENT -- provide you with sufficient time and preparation to tell your version of the truth. If you tell the cop "I think he was reaching..." the officer will destroy your credibility in court by testifying that you weren't sure, and he'd be right. Traffic offenses are totally different. It's not really law, and traffic court is not really court. It's a revenue thing pure and simple. If a cop tells a judge you did 85 in a 35 he will throw the book at you even if you were only doing 30 in a 35. If you were in fact doing 85 not saying anything or acting like a Youtube Lawyer is not going to save you. In essence your apprehension, trial, and sentencing occurs right there where you were stopped. Your only hope during a traffic stop is to be polite, deferential, and remorseful to the cop. Once you're in court you're losing 99.9% of the time the cop shows up.

Ray, I think you're missing other people's points. How you interact with the cop can determine whether you get a ticket or go on your way with a warning. Yes, there are overreaching cops who treat everyone like John Dillinger but they are the exception not the rule.

Ray, been a long time since I was involved in traffic enforcement. Unless it's changed a police officer has the option of issuing a verbal warning, a written warning, a summons, or arrest for a violation of mv statutes (Title 39 in NJ). Now there are guidelines on what violations you are arrested for like DWI and others. A cop can also write you for a lesser offense. 95 in a 55 can get you careless driving, excessive speed instead of 40 over the speed limit. Fewer points and lower fine. I know of two incidents where a drunk passenger was pitching empty beer bottles out the window. No open container law in NJ then. This was in the 70s. The driver and passengers were laughing their ads off when stopped in one. They said "what are you gonna do, give us a ticket for littering". That was a $50 fine then. What the guy did get was a ticket for "placing an injurious substance on the roadway". Mandatory court appearance and when the judge heard the story, $500 fine. The other incident resulted in the drunk passenger hitting a parked police car with a bottle (no damage). The driver didn't STFU and apologized for his drunk friend. The cop let them go back, clean up the bottles, no arrest or summons. Everyone went on their way. Two different incidents. Two different outcomes. STFU is a last resort as @Walt of Destinysaid.

Once again things go south. There is a legitimate question here which is "what's the best way to go through a routine traffic stop so that you and the LEO can part as friends and go on with your respective days" These discussions then lead to "what if I have an unlicensed nuclear reactor and I spit on the cops shoes?" There are an infinite number of what ifs which one would think would be outside the scope of the thread. But I was wrong. In general, unless you're looking for trouble or have a mammoth chip on your shoulder you will be OK every time out to 6σ probability. Best thing is to look at the interaction from the cop's point of view. Put yourself in his shoes and act accordingly. Which, as usual, boils down to three simple rules: 1) use your best judgement 2) don't be an asshole 3) shut the fuck up As Zeke says, there are no absolutes. The rules are really guidelines and have interpretations. Generally contingent on rule #2. Because if you break rule #2 you've already broken #1 and most probably are incapable of following rule #3. As a codicil to the rules, there is one caveat, don't blame the cops, laws or politics for your stupidity. To lighten the mood a bit, this is one of my favorite comedians talking about his interactions with NYC's finest: (Warning it's 7 minutes long.)

Gold Rush in Princeton. Thats where we got ours from for years when I was a kid. Wonderful dogs. Somebodys gonna say it but we got our Shepherd Mix from a Rescue. So many puppies need homes from shelters.

I like Jim Rogers, liked his book Investment Biker. He has traveled the world and seen a lot and I think he has a good mind for finance and investing. However, I do not generally give much credence to this kind of prediction. Everyone is biased and no one, NO ONE, understands the complex and ever changing global financial system. NO one. I am actually surprised that we don't see more crashes and domino effect type incidents--where one seemingly minor event causes another minor event, causes something else, and eventually it is a huge problem. but we don't. Rogers is predicting something that he is hedged against--the fall of the west and rise of China. Just like in the 1980s when Japan took over the world economy, except that never happened. I think that what Rogers says is certainly plausible, sounds reasonable, and could happen. But a lot of things could happen--some rogue mathematician could solve P/NP and then it is game over (or not). If I hedge against everything I think I will end up with nothing.

Wanna have some fun? Go to google and enter "market crash 20xx"...where you pick the year. For any year you pick....2010, 2014, 2015, etc...there will be a pile of pundits that predicted the markets will crash that year. Most were wrong. http://www.barrons.com/articles/stop-worrying-about-the-stock-market-crashing-1463743491 Chicken Little is alive and well.....

I got pulled over not long ago by an unmarked car. I was in an industrial area and had just left the car wash when I noticed a big drop of water on my otherwise perfectly shiny hood. I got the bright idea of going 80mph in a 35mph zone to let the wind blow it off. He was pissed when he walked up to my car and immediately told him "I can't believe how STUPID I was for doing that!" I told him the truth that I was trying to blow the water drop off of my car. He started laughing and said he had not heard that one before. He let me go and told me not to try that again.

Oh cool! Someone 3D printed the "Save" icon!

This thread pushes me away from gun games.

Worst case you take it to the gunsmith after you try. I think you got this bud. Give it a shot

The mafia pulls over people with light and sirens?

... and here is the image of the receiver from the rifle he first bought... Same stock. I believe he scrubbed and restamped... Look at the angle on the 2. In the original and his modified... the two is at an angle out. On his last photo, the 2 is slanted inward.

To be optimistic: I hope that they go so far that the Supreme's are finally able to save us.