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This is something that happens (so I am told), but is NEVER spoken of.

There are times, even as a staunch Second Amendment Patriot & VP of NJ's busiest 2A group, I have to admit that not EVERYBODY should have a gun. THIS is one of those times...........

This. Its like Fight Club.

Wishful thinking for any man.

Brandishing isn't stupid if done correctly. Some consider open carry "brandishing"! There's a fine line when employing the "art of brandishing" to control a situation long enough to make an exit w/o having to pop the initial aggressor. These two have a history that's well documented, so in this case the victim fired in self-defense. More on the art of brandishing & when/how to properly deploy it to de-escalate a situation. Of particulat interest to women who purse carry: "I've been teaching the California, UT, AZ, FL, CCWs for many years and as you know, most states do allow for a legal form of brandishing. Utah’s law states that it can be done if the person reasonably believes the action to be necessary in compliance with Section 76-2-402 (Use of force) with the purpose to prevent another’s use of unlawful force. California’s law states that brandishing may be done if the person reasonably believes you or another person is to suffer imminent harm, and you fight back with no more force than is reasonably necessary to defend against that danger. While I absolutely agree with you that the law requires that it never be done in a fight or quarrel unless you’ve done everything reasonable to de-escalate, I wouldn’t say that it should “never” be done. I always tell me students that it’s a dangerous game to play because once you introduce the gun into the conversation, the attacker can try and call your bluff and you have to be willing to use it if the situation escalates. Then you have all the concerns of witnesses misunderstanding the threat like you have mentioned. Where some instructors get into trouble- and I’m not suggesting this is what you meant- is when they tell students that the gun should never come unholstered until they’ve decided to shoot. I always include drills where we clear the shirt to access or even draw from the holster, but don’t shoot. I don’t want it ingrained within them to shoot every time the gun is gripped or drawn. For example, a man with a machete is yelling at me from across the street, starting to walk toward me, and saying he’s going to chop me up. He’s about 35 feet away and outside of the “21-foot rule”. Although not a hard and fast rule, many would argue that the threat isn’t imminent enough yet to justify pulling the trigger. You better believe however that I’m going to draw my firearm in a “defensive display” and give the attacker demands as I back up and look for cover and/or an escape route. This of course would be considered brandishing, but in a legal manner. I can also envision a situation where a woman is walking late at night and alone through a parking lot to her car. She notices that she’s being followed by a shady character and there’s no reasonable explanation why this person is following her (i.e. there’s no other cars in the lot, it’s not a shortcut to anywhere, etc.). She first makes eye contact to let him know she’s not an easy target, then tries to engage in conversation by asking if he’s lost. He keeps coming straight toward her, picking us his pace. She finds her vehicle or a cement pillar to place between them and she walks a circle around it, but he obviously and deliberately follows her move. I would first recommend a less-lethal option like a Taser. If she doesn’t have one however, she then accesses the gun compartment of her purse and places her hand on the gun. At this point, she’s getting behind the time curve as he tries to close the distance between them. She greatly fears she’s about to become a victim of a forcible felony or is about to suffer serious bodily injury because of a size and strength disparity. She can yell at him forcefully to get back. If this doesn’t work however, it’s reasonable to assume in her situation that anyone who continues an advance is about to commit a serious crime. This is a good example of when informing the attacker that she has a gun and/or displaying it is the last best option short of actually firing the gun in self-defense. Shooting an unarmed attacker can be a very difficult decision, but the decision should quickly become clear once the gun is displayed or the attacker is informed she has one. The ball is in his court. If the situation escalates and he continues the approach instead of turning and running, then she must be willing to use the gun. Like you had mentioned, all other options have been exhausted and a person must first be justified in presenting the gun in the first place. While I don’t have exact stats, it’s understood that a good portion of such dangerous conflicts are avoided just by the presence of the gun. While I believe the main thrust and intent of your article was regarding those wanting to engage in fighting, I just wanted to insert my opinion that in certain situations, brandishing against an armed or even an unarmed attacker can be an effective and legal manner to avoid a lethal conflict, just short of pulling the trigger. I would also always call the police right after. In California, many sheriffs require the CCW holder to inform them of an incident where they draw their weapon. Some criminals have the audacity to even call the police on the victim after a botched attack to report a brandishing. It’s always a good idea to let the police know right away so they can establish who the true victim is. Thanks for your great articles Luke. I share them a lot with my students."

Diblasio ia a communist scumbag. He has destroyed NY. He hates the cops. His tenure can't end fast enough

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvI?autoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0 https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vvI?autoplay=1&autohide=1&showinfo=0&iv_load_policy=3&rel=0 OK, how do you attach a youtube video so it just shows up, it was easy to do on the old board. Am I missing how, or is it just not possible?

That does sound cool but if I'm spending $5k on a reproduction I'm getting a FG-42 8MM Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Beretta 9mm's. Best 9mm in the world.

Don't buy plastic and don't by cheap for heirloom

It's been done - over and over again. No NJ court is ever going to side with the Constitution or with Heller/McDonald. The 3rd circuit federal court has already ruled against us and will do so again. The only chance is SCOTUS except (1) They turn down every right to carry case that they get and (2) NJ would just ignore the ruling if we won. SCOTUS has no enforcement mechanism so why would NJ change?

@Mrs. Peel you don't collect on look, caliber, or color you collect history. Come over to the dark side and forget these new fangled plastic guns. Start collecting Military Pistols then you really can go broke. Plenty of calibers to choose from. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Tools are for sissies. Get some duct tape, and be on your way like a man.

I used to never let a permit expire but have recently done so me am starting to reduce my collection. Here's a good article on the argument for fewer guns and more expertise Buy once, cry once.. etc I definitely went through the phase where I built several AR's and had to have one of each handgun. But now, I would rather just keep it simple with a few high quality pieces and the invest in training and range ammo http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/fewer-guns-more-expertise/

I had 3 PTP's expire, issued same time as my FID. Didn't realize they were only good for 3 months at a time. Only realized after sending paperwork to FFL after purchasing HG. Had to go through the whole process over again, 6 weeks later I was approved for 3 more. And was able to pick up purchase. Made sure to not let 2 remaining PTP's expire. Renewed for another 3 months. Was awfully disappointing realizing the ordeal one must go through to purchase HG in NJ.

Ummmm, never. I have three left that I'll extend on Monday because of efffffffinnnnng OGAM.

Me and the Mrs. are still in......As long as I don't piss her off before then!

Anyone who is not a criminal and has a gun that's obviously not a total POS would have sold it to a LGS I would think. Also most sellers will not walk down the street with an exposed gun. Most will be wrapped in a towel, paper or something. Basically, all the stars would have to align to get a great buy and go home unscathed. You would have to question everyone and I suspect it will go like this... Hey man, watcha got? Answer, A gun What kinda gun? Answer, I dunno. May I see it? Answer, Who is you? You da buy back dude? It'd be kinda lik a convo wit Zeke...Jus sayin!

Like that?

Hey, I honestly don't recall, but just googled it... the main # seems to be: 609-882-2000 - I'm not sure which extension I used. I see two, try both: ext's 2060 or 2290.

Krdshrk, THAT MADE MY WEEK. lmao!! My other favorite is "Let me see you're war face" "Bullshit You dont scare me....work on it"

Sorry to be a Debbie Downer... but this is the kind of crap that I fully expect the MSM will get a hold of and play it to DEATH... making ALL gun owners look bad because of these 2 yoyos and their silly-ass immaturity. Complete imbeciles! But make no mistake, WE pay the price for their stupidity.

All State Lawmakers that voted or vote Yes to Passing ”no issue” or “may issue” gun carry permit laws Violate 18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured— They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death. Oppress (verb) to burden with cruel or unjust impositions or restraints; subject to aburdensome or harsh exercise of authority or power: The 2nd Amendment applies to all levels of government and applies to an individual’s right to keep and bear arms. Bear (verb) To possess or carry McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), is a landmark[1]decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that found that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" as protected under the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment against the states. On June 28, 2010, the Supreme Court, in a 5–4 decision, reversed the Seventh Circuit's decision, holding that the Second Amendment was incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment thus protecting those rights from infringement by local governments. This means that the Second Amendment, per the McDonald v. Chicago (2010) ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court, is a constitutional right that also restricts state and local governments from infringing on our right to keep and bear arms. NJ State Police Oath of Office I, ____________________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the State of New Jersey; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the Governments established in the United States and in this State, under the Authority of the people; and that I will faithfully, impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of ______________________________________________________________________ according to the best of my ability, and that I will not use my office to grant preferential treatment, nor to seek personal gain, favor, or advantage not available to the general public, (so help me, God*). This means that a NJ state police officer shall support the Constitution of the United States and the rights guaranteed within of his fellow US citizens, including their Constitutional 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms. There is no excuse for any officer to deny a non-criminal, law abiding citizen the paperwork and/or signature required to obtain a permit to carry their arms in public for lawful use. This is every US citizen’s constitutional right. 2nd Ammendment Rights Violation Proof.pdf

3 weeks and 2 days. Toms River PD. they are great actually. its just silly this whole process that NJ created. but alas i will remain optimistic that NJ will joint the rest of the country one day - this nonsense cant last forever.

4 to the chest? And got-up & walked-away? Still talking? Looked to me like the guy riding the mower pulled his piece first, and did so after instigating the encounter. How fortunate to have a video camera right there. It's almost like he knew it's gonna happen

Relevant thread with good info: https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/79832-slings/&do=findComment&comment=1015674

Just finished this build over the weekend. Cobbled together mostly from spare parts. The only things I bought to finish the build were the optic and buffer. 

found this (horribly fisheyed) pic sans those weird rails the only odd thing i see is that the ak mag release holds the new hand guard on, and the interchangeable magazine well has the new mag release on its left side its not ugly, its quirky, and i like quirky

DJI Mavic Pro. The thing is rock solid when it's locked on GPS.

In my (ever growing) collection I have the usual suspects; Sig, Ruger, S&W. My dad, however, does have a Bersa along with a HK and Glock. My dad is retired LE so he is one of the very few/very lucky ones in NJ that can carry and on his lighter days he carries the Bersa. I don't know how many total rounds he has through his Bersa but during a range trip together I put 100 rounds thru with no problem but I did have a FTE with his VP9. Now I'm not blaming the VP, it is a good gun overall just I don't care for the paddle mag release myself. Maybe my dad got lucky with his Bersa????? I'm not sure. This pistol is my wifes 1st and she was just looking for something to start out with, she looked at several guns and she liked the size and feel of this one, hopefully she got a good one........... Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Time and time again I see people posting, shoot what you're comfortable with. Regardless of reliability, what the forum thinks, what the reviews are, etc. Now...@ghanson is posting that his wife is comfortable shooting a certain pistol and it's not good enough? As long as it shoots, and she's comfortable shooting it. You're good to go. Congrats on her new gun!

Summabitch, that was a point I was gonna make done the road. And I'm out of likes

IMO, you should apply for the CCW and make them deny you. If something bad were to happen to you in the future, that having a firearm with you could have prevented, then you will have grounds to seek action against the government.

I have raised this point before...flood the judges with requests...a denial, seriously? getting a denial in NJ? Everyone know the impossibilities. Getting denied for another P2P in our own state because you were denied a CCW? You pass the mental health check, the criminal background check, it's left to the local PD to issue the P2P, he already knows why you didn't get the CCW permit. If any one ever asks why you were denied, tell them the truth, your life and the safety of your family has no value in NJ. NJ prefers to keep everyone a victim! I'm sure they'll understand...LOL.