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Sorry but i don't feel bad for people who knew they were bringing a Bullshit lawsuit on a company that followed the law. They tried to hurt lucky gunner by suing them.. Luckly gunner fought back, No reason lucky gunner would be out of pocket one penny. If this happened more often it would stop these BS suits from trying to destroy companies that only broke one rule... Selling a product you dont like.

Last weekend I returned to NJ from a 2-week road trip to visit and tour various antique, classic and special interest automobile museums in six (6) different states: Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois and Wisconsin, (not including New Jersey, of course). I thought this trip would be an ideal test run for me to CCW, where allowed. As you may recall from earlier posts, I had applied for and had received my non-resident CCW permits from Utah, Florida and New Hampshire. So I could legally CCW in PA, OH, IN, WI, but not in MI or IL. FWIW, here is my travel log of that road trip and some of my experiences and thoughts. For this trip for CCW, I decided to use my Sig Sauer P226 MK-25 9mm handgun, holstered in an inside-the-waistband Mitch Rosen custom finished cowhide leather holster, attached to a matching color and finish strapping cowhide leather Mitch Rosen 1 ½” wide gun belt. The belt has tapered ends and is harness-stitched around the perimeter and finished like a fine dress belt which contributes to a more normal belt look in front, therefore not really looking like a gun belt. The daytime weather was warm (high 70’s) to hot and humid (high 80’s/low 90’s). I wore shorts and UA/Nike colored tee shirts made from a wicking type of fabric, tucked into my pants along with a cotton sport shirt over it, buttoned, but not tucked in. This approach covered my handgug and minimized any “printing”. I also used a well-traveled, small black cowhide Coach leather satchel with shoulder strap that provided convenient accessible storage for my wallet, reading & sun glasses, cash, iPhone, car keys, flashlight and pocket knife, keeping my pants pockets free and flat. I positioned the holster at the 4 o’clock position on my belt, which was the most comfortable and practical for me from my experimenting with various positions. The self-defense ammo I chose for my handgun was Speer Gold Dot hollow point rounds, which I have been practicing with at the range, along with the Speer Lawman ball ammo for most paper target shooting. Carrying this satchel on the same side as my handgun contributed to further concealing the fact that I had a handgun inside my waistband. I also continued to CCW while driving. Since this was my first time CCW’g I decided that I would have a fully loaded magazine in my gun, but not have a round chambered. I decided that for this trip that I would not have any additional loaded magazines on me while I was CCW’g, to keep it simple. This worked for me allowing me to slowly build up my confidence and comfort with carrying a handgun. Before I embarked on this road trip and based on our back-and-forth discussion in this CCW section, I purchased, read and updated regularly a number of concealed carry iPhone apps, including: CCW, CCA, Posted and LegalHeat. As was recommended to me by other posters here, studying the gun laws of each of the states I planned to visit was somewhat tedious and laborious, but a necessary task, that was made much easier by using these Apps. Thank you all again for that recommendation. Using the advice from HBecwithFn7, and as a cheat-sheet reminder, I wrote on an index card for each of these states, Y or N for if one is required to inform a LEO that I am conceal carrying, as well as which of my non-resident CCW permits is recognized and honored in that state. I was consciously aware of what the law was/is, relative to each state, as to whether or not, if stopped, one must voluntarily inform a LEO that you are carrying. Specifically, the individual state law that dictates that if stopped by a LEO, you are required to immediately and voluntarily notify the LEO that you are carrying, and display not just the usual Driver’s License, Vehicle Registration and Auto Insurance ID Card, but the applicable CCW Permit card. As one poster noted previously, in some states, you are not required to notify immediately, but only "if asked by" or "upon demand of" the LEO, (i.e. "Are you carrying any weapons?" or, "Are there any weapons in the car?"). Thankfully, I was not stopped by any LEO for any reason on this trip so did not have to deal with that situation. Initially, once I crossed into PA from NJ, I stopped at the first rest stop and parked in a far corner of the parking lot. With the back of my SUV facing away from all the other cars I was able to discreetly retrieve and put on my holster, then load and holster my handgun under my sport shirt. Once back in the vehicle, I was pleasantly surprised that the handgun did not gouge and indent into my abdomen, even with the seatbelt fastened. But I did find that towards the end of each day, especially when walking around museums and other places for several hours on end, that the feel of the holstered gun became more noticeable and at times a bit uncomfortable due to chaffing. Part of that may be attributed to the heat and humidity and part that I chose a full-size, all-metal handgun that is heavier than a polymer framed gun. That was a conscious choice since I am a much more accurate shooter using a full-size handgun and that was/is a very important choice factor for me. Also, my other polymer handguns have longer than standard barrels and holsters for them are hard to find. I am fully aware of and was abiding by the current FOPA laws governing interstate transportation of firearms. So, before I entered either Michigan or Illinois, I would stop at an appropriate location in the neighboring state to remove my handgun, removing the loaded magazine, along with the holster and store them in separate pouches that were in turn, placed inside a locked hard sided attaché case, located in the far back of my SUV, inaccessible to anyone inside. In the evening, in the states where I was legal to CCW, I would bring my handgun and case into my motel room for the night. When in MI and IL, I decided to just leave the cased gun and ammo stored in the locked hard-sided attaché case, locked in the back of my SUV, to avoid any potential hassle. I have to admit that for the first couple of days in PA and OH, I was rather nervous of the fact that I was carrying a firearm, even if it was concealed. Did I feel safer by doing so…? Yes, but, I also felt very self-conscious and that I needed to quite frequently and discreetly, ensure that my gun was not clearly visible or even printing. I learned how to deal with a number of new situations. For example, in a public restroom when inside a stall doing #2, to make sure that the holstered handgun on the belt does not fall down to my ankles where it may possibly become visible to someone in an adjacent stall. If it happened, it would not have been the end of the world, but I was trying to be discreet and not shock some folks who could have misunderstood the situation. The fact that I was doing this road trip by myself was a good way to determine what CCW’g was like, without the added stated or implied, verbal and non-verbal comments and/or body language concerns expressed by my wife, or anyone else. By the end of this trip I appreciated the freedom I enjoyed to CCW in the states where I legally could do so. It was a vacation that served as a real test and learning experience for me to see what it was like to CCW where I could and everything required and involved to do so. I was erring on the side of caution and attempting to abide by the letter of the law of each state, even when it was a PITA. Until (and if), our Congress passes a national uniform CCW law and then the SCOTUS upholds it, these types of precautions will continue to befuddle those who are interested in CCW and do not want to run afoul of different states gun laws. None of us want to suffer the severe consequences of possibly unknowingly breaking one of them, due to ignorance or misunderstanding. AVB-AMG

Glock 41 long slide in natural, moved this to jokes.. lexcruiser's pistol was too nice to leave this hear..

10 degrees.

Most incredible post ever. Thank you. Since I was already beat to the Coach bag jokes. I will submit this: how were the #2s in the public restrooms? Which were the cleanest? Did you have to turn any places down for say lack of a lock on the door? Do you bring your own TP? PS: I could only wish that some day my life would entail visiting historic car locations. I'm jealous.

My G43

All done. Very "Space Gat" looking but its growing on me . Just glad to finally own a Glock again. Feels nice in the hands. Specs: Grey Glock 19 Gen 4 frame Zev Tech Spartan slide Zev TiN Barrel Zev Combat sights (fiber front) Trijicon RMR Zev slide internals NDZ SS Recoil Rod w/ 15lb spring Overwatch TAC Trigger Glock minus connector TiN slide release, extended mag button, takedown lever, pins, etc. Agency Arms magwell Inforce APLc Overall I'm happy with how everything turned out. Absolute co-witness is possible w/ non-suppressor sights & the RMR w/ the Zev slide. Tolerances are pretty tight w/ the slide so will have to see how it performs at the range. Trigger does not feel as nice as my Performance Center Shield w/ an Apex trigger, but hoping it smooths out over time. Pre-travel on the Overwatch trigger is still slightly gritty but it is reduced over the stock trigger. It does break & reset very nicely and I'm OK w/ it as none of the safeties are compromised with their setup (so they say). Got the trigger during their July 4th deal and it came w/ a "free" minus connector. No complaints.

I have a Nikon 3x9 on mine. Real basic bit works nicely Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

How is it there are only 17,472 signatures?

It is unclear from their site if the $279/year includes lane time. One would "assume" it does, but you know what happens when you assume...... Other ranges have not always included the cost of lane time in their membership fees, so...

Ill second the RD adapter. Ive never had the difinitive arms one in my hand but the RD one has worked out real nice for me

I'm sure many of us are aware of the Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act from 2005. That law was to preclude mass lawsuits trying to hold manufacturers and FFLs responsible for criminal acts committed with products made or sold by them, with the intention of bankrupting the industry. This article describes how the Brady Campaign mislead a couple whose daughter was killed in the Aurora theater shooting. They encouraged the couple to file a lawsuit knowing full well that the federal law should preclude success. The couple basically sold everything they had to file the suit and travel around the country touting gun control. I'm really surprised that the couple's lawyers didn't clue them in on this. Of course since they lost I assume they didn't get paid. And the couple had to pay the opponent's legal fees.

Or just buy new Gunz.... you will forget about the car problem.

I'm guessing its Pacific/North/West.

Techron

I’ve loaded plenty of extreme in 9, 40, 45 and even 10mm. Their advice is good to go. For jacked start a bit below the initial loading and work up. If you’re using lead load data I’d still start at the intial recommended weight and work up. A chrony is your friend.

Already decided to push it a week... to the 17th. Just sounds more fun and relaxing if the place isn't crowded. Thank you AGAIN for noticing that and bringing it to our attention! Are you coming btw? Would love to meet you!

Is this thread real? Stupid

Completely hooked!!!! Alyssa Wright from Indian, she my new hero! she took down and kept down 2 people till back up arrived. She's bad ass!!! Host is a little too cheese ball for my taste sometimes. But I get it, not everyone has the same sense of humor. I think Tom Morris is funnier. "I am not a ballet person or anything " did you guys see that one?

Gentleman, this is a good sign. establishment money and emails are webbing. Satellites are linking up. The know is nervous.

Cool thanks.

I watch it all the time.... I like the host..... adds a little humor. Note to self..... NEVER travel to Richland Co. S.C.

Rifle dynamics. The machining looks really outstanding.

"Very crowded" doesn't sound particularly pleasant to me, quite honestly! I'm going to PM all the folks who RSVP'd and see if they're available for the following week, 9/17. Will circle back to you all! Sorry about this. Arrrrggghhhh!

Here's the 74. Its based on a Nodak Spud and Bulgarian parts kit. The barrel is chrome lined. Its my modern take on an AK. The rail is a chaos rail that is really nice and the muzzle brake is a Lantac Dragon. I bailed on the MI rails because I thought they sucked. The trigger from ALG work people spring is shockingly nice. The barrel was cut and muzzle attached to 16.1 OAL. An AK that won't be too everyone's taste. I have Saiga conversion in 7.62 using the same parts. The paint is fairly ornate but the lighting and my photography skills suck. Shoots like a dream

Som current pictures. Thank you all for the support. Anthony

http://www.tactical-life.com/news/sig-sauer-p320-dallas-pd/#sig-p320-2 No issues with P320

No, and no.

Good for you AVB. I'm glad you enjoyed your trip. Capt14k, please don't carry in the small of your back (SoB). It's dangerous on a few levels: • If you fall on your back/ass you can really hurt yourself, I'm talking broken vertebrae hurt yourself. • Its a slow and very noticible draw stroke. It offers no covert draw options thus limiting your options during a crisis when it pays to be able to be flexible. • Every time you draw or reholster you are pointing the muzzle at your torso and hips. Under the stress of a deadly force confrontation you could very well put one into your own body, thereby doing the bad guys job for him. There are dozens of legitimate modern options to carry a handgun. Something else out there will suit your needs, avoid SoB carry if at all possible.

Seriously? American is good but you are not shopping hard enough. Freedommunitions is quality and if you get on the list, quite often is free shipping. Here is 9mm for $186.90 for 1000 rounds. Not on sale yet but does go on sale. Much better than stinky American. https://www.freedommunitions.com/ammunition/pistol/9mm/9mm-luger-115-gr-rn-reman.html Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro